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That seems right. The rise of Gurmag Angler and Tasigur means discarded cards are less likely to be dead cards, although Hypnotic Specter was well on its way out before they even showed up. And of course stuff like Life from the Loam, Aether Vial, Snapcaster Mage, all make the inexorable threat...

I do have to admit to being a fan of the slightly obscure not-as-good-as-Hyppie card, Doomsday Specter. It's not really even that strong of a card, but on those rare occasions when everything about it pays off, it's just so cool. As for Commander, I think it's got to be the true classic...

True, but it's all in good fun anyway. Or idle speculation, which I equate to good fun because I am demented. :p I should note that I do sometimes see Channel, but the preferred combo card with it now seems to be Emrakul, the Aeons Torn. Not only does it eliminate the red mana requirement and...

For as long as I maintained a bunch of 60-card casual constructed decks, I pretty much always had at least one deck with Hypnotic Specters in it. It wasn't something I experimented with a lot in Legacy when I moved more toward building Legacy decks. I was more into combo decks for that...

Well, of course there's no data on this so it's totally guesswork. But yeah, my experience was completely different from yours in that respect. My first core set was Fifth Edition, which was the first core set to drop Hypnotic Specter. And yet I played with it tons. Now, you do bring up a good...

Yes! I mean probably. Like I noted, nothing that's really similar to Hypnotic Specter is even close to as strong as Hypnotic Specter. Despite all of the obvious creature power creep, Hypnotic Specter is still very much the best at what it does. So if it is obsolete (not saying definitively that...

Ty scouts ahead. Carrow keeps his bow trained on the targets in the distance, ready to cover Ty's retreat if there is going to be one. Suddenly, a shadowy figure appears behind Carrow and stabs him in the back with a wicked-looking knife.

Ooh, yeah the double Dark Ritual play also opened up some powerful possibilities. I wasn't going to post this just yet, but here's one of my old lists. I posted it to TappedOut a while back... 4x Duress 4x Hymn to Tourach 4x Mind Twist 4x Sinkhole 4x Dark Ritual 2x Diabolic Edict 11x...

Done. Spidey: 11 Hand: 1 Library: 41 Battlefield: (U,U) Forest x2 (U) Swamp (U) Jungle Hollow (~ ETB tapped.; When ~ ETB, I gain 1 life.; T: Add B or G to my mana pool) (U) Llanowar Wastes (T: Add C to my mana pool.; T: Add B or G to my mana pool. ~ deals 1 dmg to me) (U) Rogue's Passage (T...

Well, it is mandatory. I'd say in a vacuum it would probably only give you another potential option anyway. Like you happen to manifest a creature big enough that you could turn it face-up and have it survive the Mizzium Mortars, then that might be something you'd want to do. Whereas if you only...

The classic play, the iconic play, the one that made Hypnotic Specter famous, was to rush it out first-turn with Dark Ritual, and commence to stripping away your opponent's hand from the second turn onward. This was contingent on the opponent not having a spell that could kill the Specter or a...

UUD, Island, overload Mizzium Mortars. Responses?

I guess I'll exchange control of Melkor's Dire Fleet Hoarder an Melkor's other Dire Fleet Hoarder. You're all welcome. :rolleyes:

About twenty years ago, I heard talk in a local game story about a creature called a "hippie." I had no idea what it meant. It seemed like such a strange name for a creature. So I inquired. And some more experienced players showed me Hypnotic Specter. It wasn't long before I was using...

You continue along the path, which gradually climbs upward. In the distance ahead, you see a massive old log fallen diagonally, leaning on a tree ahead of you. Something seems to be scaling the log, but you can't get a good look at it from back here...

I've been checking in about every day. Been a bit busy lately, but yeah, I'm still around of course. Don't really have anything else to add as far as the topic of this thread goes. My position hasn't really changed.

Take it.

:eek: This could be it... UUD, done. Spidey: 11 Hand: 1 Library: 45 Battlefield: (T,T) Forest x2 (T) Swamp (T) Jungle Hollow (~ ETB tapped.; When ~ ETB, I gain 1 life.; T: Add B or G to my mana pool) (T) Llanowar Wastes (T: Add C to my mana pool.; T: Add B or G to my mana pool. ~ deals 1...

UUD, Island done. Spidey: 11 Hand: 1 Library: 47 Battlefield: (T,U) Forest x2 (T) Swamp (T) Jungle Hollow (~ ETB tapped.; When ~ ETB, I gain 1 life.; T: Add B or G to my mana pool) (U) Llanowar Wastes (T: Add C to my mana pool.; T: Add B or G to my mana pool. ~ deals 1 dmg to me) (S)...

UUD, Battlefield Thaumaturge, and then... -Flames of the Firebrand with 2 damage on Tasigur and 1 damage on Sultai Emissary, so it's discounted to only cost R. Guttersnipe hits you for 2, then Sultai Emissary dies and Tasigur sustains 2 damage. Also, something is manifested. -Lightning Strike...