Sports League Season 4, Week 7: Turgy22 vs. Spiderman

turgy22

Nothing Special
I will play first.

Draw 7. Sigh. Shuffle up.
Draw 6.

Swamp.
Done.

Turgy22: 20
Hand: 5
Library: 34
Battlefield
(U) Swamp x1

Graveyard:
Exile:

Spiderman: 20
Hand: ?
Library: ??
Battlefield

Graveyard:
Exile:
 

Spiderman

Administrator
Staff member
Let's hope that bodes well for me :)

Draw 7. Keep

Draw, Plains, Nomads en-Kor, Done

Turgy22: 20
Hand: 5
Library: 34
Battlefield
(U) Swamp x1

Graveyard:
Exile:

Spiderman: 20
Hand: 6
Library: 33
Battlefield

(T) Plains

(S) Nomads en-Kor (1/1; 0: The next 1 dmg that would be dealt to ~ this turn is dealt to target creature I control instead)

Graveyard:
Exile:
 

turgy22

Nothing Special
Untap. Upkeep. Draw.
Swamp.
Dunerider Outlaw.
Donw.

Turgy22: 20
Hand: 4
Library: 33
Battlefield
(TT) Swamp x2

(S) Dunerider Outlaw (1/1; Pro-green; At the beginning of each end step, if Dunerider Outlaw dealt damage to an opponent this turn, put a +1/+1 counter on it.)

Graveyard:
Exile:

Spiderman: 20
Hand: 6
Library: 33
Battlefield

(T) Plains

(S) Nomads en-Kor (1/1; 0: The next 1 dmg that would be dealt to ~ this turn is dealt to target creature I control instead)

Graveyard:
Exile:
 

Spiderman

Administrator
Staff member
Untap. Upkeep. Draw.

Swamp.
Drudge Skeletons
Done.
Turgy22: 20
Hand: 4
Library: 33
Battlefield
(TT) Swamp x2

(S) Dunerider Outlaw (1/1; Pro-green; At the beginning of each end step, if Dunerider Outlaw dealt damage to an opponent this turn, put a +1/+1 counter on it.)

Graveyard:
Exile:

Spiderman: 20
Hand: 5
Library: 32
Battlefield

(T) Plains
(T) Swamp

(U) Nomads en-Kor (1/1; 0: The next 1 dmg that would be dealt to ~ this turn is dealt to target creature I control instead)
(S) Drudge Skeletons (1/1; B: Regen ~)

Graveyard:
Exile:
 

turgy22

Nothing Special
Untap. Upkeep. Draw.

Island.
Moriok Replica.
Done.

Turgy22: 20
Hand: 3
Library: 32
Battlefield
(TT) Swamp x2
(T) Island x1

(U) Dunerider Outlaw (1/1; Pro-green; At the beginning of each end step, if Dunerider Outlaw dealt damage to an opponent this turn, put a +1/+1 counter on it.)
(S) Moriok Replica (2/2; 1B, Sac: You draw two cards and lose 2 life.)

Graveyard:
Exile:

Spiderman: 20
Hand: 5
Library: 32
Battlefield

(T) Plains
(T) Swamp

(U) Nomads en-Kor (1/1; 0: The next 1 dmg that would be dealt to ~ this turn is dealt to target creature I control instead)
(S) Drudge Skeletons (1/1; B: Regen ~)

Graveyard:
Exile:
 

Spiderman

Administrator
Staff member
Untap. Upkeep. Draw.

Swamp
Skyhunter Prowler
Done.

Turgy22: 20
Hand: 3
Library: 32
Battlefield
(TT) Swamp x2
(T) Island x1

(U) Dunerider Outlaw (1/1; Pro-green; At the beginning of each end step, if Dunerider Outlaw dealt damage to an opponent this turn, put a +1/+1 counter on it.)
(S) Moriok Replica (2/2; 1B, Sac: You draw two cards and lose 2 life.)

Graveyard:
Exile:

Spiderman: 20
Hand: 4
Library: 31
Battlefield

(T) Plains
(T,T) Swamp x2

(U) Nomads en-Kor (1/1; 0: The next 1 dmg that would be dealt to ~ this turn is dealt to target creature I control instead)
(U) Drudge Skeletons (1/1; B: Regen ~)
(S) Skyhunter Prowler (1/3; Flying; Vigilance)

Graveyard:
Exile:
 

turgy22

Nothing Special
Well, this is shaping up to be an interesting game.

Untap. Upkeep. Draw.
Swamp.
Aven Fisher.
Done.

Turgy22: 20
Hand: 2
Library: 31
Battlefield
(TTT) Swamp x3
(T) Island x1

(U) Dunerider Outlaw (1/1; Pro-green; At the beginning of each end step, if Dunerider Outlaw dealt damage to an opponent this turn, put a +1/+1 counter on it.)
(U) Moriok Replica (2/2; 1B, Sac: You draw two cards and lose 2 life.)
(S) Aven Fisher (2/2; Flying; When Aven Fisher dies, you may draw a card.)

Graveyard:
Exile:

Spiderman: 20
Hand: 4
Library: 31
Battlefield

(T) Plains
(T,T) Swamp x2

(U) Nomads en-Kor (1/1; 0: The next 1 dmg that would be dealt to ~ this turn is dealt to target creature I control instead)
(U) Drudge Skeletons (1/1; B: Regen ~)
(S) Skyhunter Prowler (1/3; Flying; Vigilance)

Graveyard:
Exile:
 

Spiderman

Administrator
Staff member
With you having the edge....

Untap. Upkeep. Draw

Swamp.
Phyrexian Broodlings

Done.

Turgy22: 20
Hand: 2
Library: 31
Battlefield
(TTT) Swamp x3
(T) Island x1

(U) Dunerider Outlaw (1/1; Pro-green; At the beginning of each end step, if Dunerider Outlaw dealt damage to an opponent this turn, put a +1/+1 counter on it.)
(U) Moriok Replica (2/2; 1B, Sac: You draw two cards and lose 2 life.)
(S) Aven Fisher (2/2; Flying; When Aven Fisher dies, you may draw a card.)

Graveyard:
Exile:

Spiderman: 20
Hand: 3
Library: 30
Battlefield

(T) Plains
(T,T,U) Swamp x3

(U) Nomads en-Kor (1/1; 0: The next 1 dmg that would be dealt to ~ this turn is dealt to target creature I control instead)
(U) Drudge Skeletons (1/1; B: Regen ~)
(U) Skyhunter Prowler (1/3; Flying; Vigilance)
(S) Phyrexian Broodlings (2/2; 1, Sac a creature: Put a +1/+1 ctr on ~)

Graveyard:
Exile:
 

turgy22

Nothing Special
Seems pretty even to me. I always feel like I gain the edge during my turn and lose it during your turn.

Untap. Upkeep. Draw.
Volrath's Stronghold.
Done.

Turgy22: 20
Hand: 2
Library: 30
Battlefield
(UUU) Swamp x3
(U) Island x1
(U) Volrath's Stronghold (T: Add 1; 1B,T: Put target creature card from your graveyard on top of your library.)

(U) Dunerider Outlaw (1/1; Pro-green; At the beginning of each end step, if Dunerider Outlaw dealt damage to an opponent this turn, put a +1/+1 counter on it.)
(U) Moriok Replica (2/2; 1B, Sac: You draw two cards and lose 2 life.)
(U) Aven Fisher (2/2; Flying; When Aven Fisher dies, you may draw a card.)

Graveyard:
Exile:

Spiderman: 20
Hand: 3
Library: 30
Battlefield

(T) Plains
(T,T,U) Swamp x3

(U) Nomads en-Kor (1/1; 0: The next 1 dmg that would be dealt to ~ this turn is dealt to target creature I control instead)
(U) Drudge Skeletons (1/1; B: Regen ~)
(U) Skyhunter Prowler (1/3; Flying; Vigilance)
(S) Phyrexian Broodlings (2/2; 1, Sac a creature: Put a +1/+1 ctr on ~)

Graveyard:
Exile:
 

Spiderman

Administrator
Staff member
Ha, I feel like I'm two steps behind on your turn and one step behind after mine.
Untap. Upkeep. Draw

Swamp
Last Laugh

Done.

Turgy22: 20
Hand: 2
Library: 30
Battlefield
(UUU) Swamp x3
(U) Island x1
(U) Volrath's Stronghold (T: Add 1; 1B,T: Put target creature card from your graveyard on top of your library.)

(U) Dunerider Outlaw (1/1; Pro-green; At the beginning of each end step, if Dunerider Outlaw dealt damage to an opponent this turn, put a +1/+1 counter on it.)
(U) Moriok Replica (2/2; 1B, Sac: You draw two cards and lose 2 life.)
(U) Aven Fisher (2/2; Flying; When Aven Fisher dies, you may draw a card.)

Graveyard:
Exile:

Spiderman: 20
Hand: 2
Library: 29
Battlefield

(T) Plains
(T,T,T,U) Swamp x4

Last Laugh (Whenever a permanent other than ~ is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, ~ deals 1 dmg to each creature and each player.; When no creatures are on the battlefield, sac ~)

(U) Nomads en-Kor (1/1; 0: The next 1 dmg that would be dealt to ~ this turn is dealt to target creature I control instead)
(U) Drudge Skeletons (1/1; B: Regen ~)
(U) Skyhunter Prowler (1/3; Flying; Vigilance)
(U) Phyrexian Broodlings (2/2; 1, Sac a creature: Put a +1/+1 ctr on ~)

Graveyard:
Exile:
 

turgy22

Nothing Special
Well this should be fun...
End of your turn, I'll tap two Swamps and sacrifice my Moriok Replica.
After that, I'll get confused with the timing of things, but I know all my creatures will die and I'll end up losing 2 life and drawing three cards.
Unless you've got something magical in hand, I believe you'll end up losing all your creatures, as well, since everything will take three damage on three separate occasions, killing three more of your creatures, which means the Nomads will have no one left to redirect damage to when the last of your other creatures dies, which means we both lose 7 life (9 total for me) and Last Laugh goes to the graveyard.
That should certainly speed things up.

Does that all sound about right to you or do you have something else to play?
 

Spiderman

Administrator
Staff member
Wow. I didn't think I'd need to think right before I left work. Let me work it out and continue on Monday :)
 

Spiderman

Administrator
Staff member
I know, I know. Had to catch up on other stuff first.

So let's see....

You sac the Replica and Last Laugh triggers
I redirect the Nomad dmg to the Drudge Skeletons
It resolves... everyone and thing takes 1 dmg except the Nomads
Outlaw and Skeletons go to the graveyard, Last Laugh triggers for each of them

Stack:
Outlaw LL
Skeletons LL

So here's what the board looks like so far. Now I have a question: Can I use the Nomad's ability twice at this point(since it would take 1 dmg each from the Skeleton LL and Outlaw LL)?
Turgy22:17
Hand: 4
Library: 28
Battlefield
(TTU) Swamp x3
(U) Island x1
(U) Volrath's Stronghold (T: Add 1; 1B,T: Put target creature card from your graveyard on top of your library.)

(U) Aven Fisher (2/2; Flying; When Aven Fisher dies, you may draw a card.) 1 dmg

Graveyard: Moriok Replica, Dunerider Outlaw
Exile:

Spiderman:19
Hand: 2
Library: 29
Battlefield

(T) Plains
(T,T,T,U) Swamp x4

Last Laugh (Whenever a permanent other than ~ is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, ~ deals 1 dmg to each creature and each player.; When no creatures are on the battlefield, sac ~)

(U) Nomads en-Kor (1/1; 0: The next 1 dmg that would be dealt to ~ this turn is dealt to target creature I control instead)
(U) (1/1; B: Regen ~)
(U) Skyhunter Prowler (1/3; Flying; Vigilance) 1 dmg
(U) Phyrexian Broodlings (2/2; 1, Sac a creature: Put a +1/+1 ctr on ~) 1 dmg

Graveyard:
Exile:
 

Spiderman

Administrator
Staff member
Here's another question I thought of while in a meeting :) : So what happens when the creature is no longer there when the redirection actually occurs (dmg resolving)? Does it just "fizzle" or does the Nomads end up taking the dmg?
 

turgy22

Nothing Special
As per rule 614.9 from the comprehensive rules (from Oct 2010, so it might have changed):
614.9. Some effects replace damage dealt to one creature, planeswalker, or player with the same damage dealt to another creature, planeswalker, or player; such effects are called redirection effects. If either creature or planeswalker is no longer on the battlefield when the damage would be redirected, or is no longer a creature or planeswalker when the damage would be redirected, the effect does nothing. If damage would be redirected to or from a player who has left the game, the effect does nothing.
So I believe the effect "fizzles", meaning the damage can no longer be redirected, which means the Nomads take the damage. At least that's how I interpret it.
 
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