Oversoul
The Tentacled One
Okay, this isn't really a rules question, just a little rant of sorts...
You see, I was at school eating lunch yesterday (my last day
) and these guys were playing Magic. This guy I knew had apparently decided that he could change a card in his hand into a disenchant and they wouldn't stop arguing about it, so they just stopped playing. The other guy wanted to know if anyone else wanted to play him that didn't have a problem with him using proxies...
Well, that explained why his opponent had thought it all right to change the cards in his hand. Now, even though I took Hel, Goddess of Death (my proxy deck with 20 moxes) apart, I figured that my newbish opponent would still have a hard time beating my proxy deck that I did happen to have (a Type I Storm deck I was testing, which was why it was all proxies).
So, first turn I drop a Gemstone Mine and say go. He drops an Urza's land, rather than some broken card, so I felt pretty safe, then he says go and I Brainstorm EOT. Second turn I drop City of Brass and Duress him with my Mine. Looking at his hand, I see a few other cards, but what catches my interest are the two proxied Voltaic Keys (so obviously his deck's not Type I legal, but it's not good either probably, so I'm thinking I'd predict victory for myself anyway) and two Time Vaults...
The proxies are printouts done on some computer that have the card name/cc/text/etc. but they have the texts from the original cards, rather than the Oracle text. I could see where this is going by now, and most other experience players could too. I picked something, one of the Keys, I think and next turn he tries to tap the Key to Untap the Vault, then tap the Vault to take another turn. I say that he can't, and he asks why not. I REALLY don't feel like explaining it to him though...
So, I notice that at the table behind me is this guy who's much more into the rules than me. He wants to be a judge or something. Me, I have only recently gotten used to 6th edition rules. Rather than explain things to the guy myself, I just yell "JUDGE!" and this draws the attention of the people sitting at that table. Didn't help though, since the guy was under the impression that what we were talking about was Time Vault being reprinted, and that he could have his combo work by proxying the "old" Time Vault. No one had said anything to this effect, and it took me several times of repeating myself to get it through his head...
All that this work resulted in was him being like "too bad it doesn't work then, but most of the people I play against don't know that, so I'll still be able to use it against them..."
Okay, so it ended up being not so tiny of a rant as I planned, but I just had to share this story...
You see, I was at school eating lunch yesterday (my last day
) and these guys were playing Magic. This guy I knew had apparently decided that he could change a card in his hand into a disenchant and they wouldn't stop arguing about it, so they just stopped playing. The other guy wanted to know if anyone else wanted to play him that didn't have a problem with him using proxies...Well, that explained why his opponent had thought it all right to change the cards in his hand. Now, even though I took Hel, Goddess of Death (my proxy deck with 20 moxes) apart, I figured that my newbish opponent would still have a hard time beating my proxy deck that I did happen to have (a Type I Storm deck I was testing, which was why it was all proxies).
So, first turn I drop a Gemstone Mine and say go. He drops an Urza's land, rather than some broken card, so I felt pretty safe, then he says go and I Brainstorm EOT. Second turn I drop City of Brass and Duress him with my Mine. Looking at his hand, I see a few other cards, but what catches my interest are the two proxied Voltaic Keys (so obviously his deck's not Type I legal, but it's not good either probably, so I'm thinking I'd predict victory for myself anyway) and two Time Vaults...
The proxies are printouts done on some computer that have the card name/cc/text/etc. but they have the texts from the original cards, rather than the Oracle text. I could see where this is going by now, and most other experience players could too. I picked something, one of the Keys, I think and next turn he tries to tap the Key to Untap the Vault, then tap the Vault to take another turn. I say that he can't, and he asks why not. I REALLY don't feel like explaining it to him though...
So, I notice that at the table behind me is this guy who's much more into the rules than me. He wants to be a judge or something. Me, I have only recently gotten used to 6th edition rules. Rather than explain things to the guy myself, I just yell "JUDGE!" and this draws the attention of the people sitting at that table. Didn't help though, since the guy was under the impression that what we were talking about was Time Vault being reprinted, and that he could have his combo work by proxying the "old" Time Vault. No one had said anything to this effect, and it took me several times of repeating myself to get it through his head...
All that this work resulted in was him being like "too bad it doesn't work then, but most of the people I play against don't know that, so I'll still be able to use it against them..."
Okay, so it ended up being not so tiny of a rant as I planned, but I just had to share this story...