Needs some Help

[Loafing Giant]

I have this Black recursion Engine in thought much like the old "Buried Alive Deck"

4 Buried Alive(DUH!)
4 Ichorid(Ashen Ghoul's replacement)
4 Nantako Shade(Black knight's Equivilent)
4 Cabal Ritual(self-Explanitory)
4 Zombify(some recusion)
4 Entomb(help get them into grave)
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Removal spells

4 Gastly Demise(cause my grave will get huge Fast!!)
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Discard?????

4 Mind Burst(they are great)

Lands

4 Cabal Pit(to nuke a creature if need be)
X Swamps

Please help me make this into a great T2 deck

 

[rkoelsch]

Black is not my color but it seems like you need a bunch of weenies or black creatures that sac themselves to make Ichorid work.

 

[Loafing Giant]

okay how about 4 copies of each:

putrid imp
boneshard slasher
carrion rats

all are cheap w/threshold, or other good qualities

imp is one for a 2/2 flyer and also can bost the grave

slasher is 2 for a possible 3/3flyer

and rats is a one foe a 2/1 with an ability that can possibly make opps losse grave-cards

wut do ya think

 

[Istanbul]

Actually, if you put in Phyrexian Altar (or some other effect that allows you to sacrifice Ichorid during your turn at will), your Ichorids will just keep coming back.

 

[Gizmo]

4 Nantuko Shade
4 Mesmeric Fiend
4 Ravenous Rats
4 Phyrexian Rager
4 Braids, Cabal Minion
3 Ichorid
3 Shambling Swarm

4 Duress
3 Chainers Edict
4 Vindicate

1 City Of Brass
4 Tainted Field
4 Caves Of Koilos
14 Swamp

(Which is based on Kibler`s version, but with possibly not enough white mana... considering finding space for 3/4 Chromatic Sphere to round out the mana base)


Or

4 Putrid Imp
4 Nantuko Shade
4 Mesmeric Fiend
4 Shambling Swarm
3 Ichorid
3 Laquatus Champion

4 Duress
4 Addle
4 Chainers Edict
4 Phyrexian Arena

2 Cabal Coffers
20 Swamp

 

[Gizmo]

And I truly honestly think that Carrion Rats are possibly the worst black creature ever printed. Certainly they are worse than ANY OTHER 1cc creature you could choose to play.

Putrid Imp is best as it can fly, get Ichorid to the graveyard, and becomes a 2/2 relatively quickly.

 

[Loafing Giant]

What I am trying t do is to update my type 1 deck to type 2 version of buried alive.

Here is what i am currently running:

Black Spells

4 Buried Alive
4 Dark Ritual
4 Duress
4 Hymn to Tourach
2 Diabolic Edict

Black Creatures

4 Ashen Ghoul
4 Nether Shadow
4 Ravenous Rats
4 Carnophage
2 Necrosavent
2 Black Knight
2 Knights of Stromgald
1 Necratog

Lands

17 Swamp
1 Cabal Pit
1 Phyrexian Tower

See.......Lots Of Recusion!

Maybe that will give a little better basis