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terzarima
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Why does everyone assume there are nine hells? Isn't there only one? But if you mean nine levels of hell, how would you know?
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Darsh
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Well, of course nobody knows for sure , but some believe in the 9 levels. (It was mainly during past times) Have you ever read Dante's Inferno? the book explains the 9 levels pretty good.
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Cateran Emperor
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Hrmm... can you sum all that up a bit more concisely Gerode? I read it all and I'm having more difficulty with this insanity than before. Is there some crucial bit of background info that I'm missing?
As for Ademis, yes I am quoting Dante's Inferno on this one. Playing D&D for many years, I simply think that there are Nine Hells and Seven Heavens as Dante said. Nine Scions of Hell, Seven Lords of Heaven. All that stuff.
Besides, it just sounds really cool.
As for Ademis, yes I am quoting Dante's Inferno on this one. Playing D&D for many years, I simply think that there are Nine Hells and Seven Heavens as Dante said. Nine Scions of Hell, Seven Lords of Heaven. All that stuff.
Besides, it just sounds really cool.
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terzarima
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Dantes Inferno? What in the nine hells is that?
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Gerode
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A book written in the 1300's by Dante Algehri or someother. Never read it, but it's supposed to be historically significant. I'm probably wrong about this. I need to check my European History notes.
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Zadok001
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*NOTE: Not 100% sure on this, but fairly certain
Dante's Inferno is the third part of an epic. The other two parts are Purgatario and Paridisio (I know I spelled thsoe wrong, it's the Latin spellings of Purgatory and Paradise). It's excellent. Go read it, if you have enough spare time.
Dante's Inferno is the third part of an epic. The other two parts are Purgatario and Paridisio (I know I spelled thsoe wrong, it's the Latin spellings of Purgatory and Paradise). It's excellent.
Go read it, if you have enough spare time.
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Chaos Turtle
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What you'd be looking for, by the way, is The Divine Comedy, or La Divina Commedia.
Inferno is the first volume, followed by Purgatory, then Paradise. (Inferno, Purgatorio, Paradiso).
Try very hard to get the English edition translated by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow. It's very readable and understandable, and preserves the mood and spirit of Dante's original work.
Inferno is the first volume, followed by Purgatory, then Paradise. (Inferno, Purgatorio, Paradiso).
Try very hard to get the English edition translated by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow. It's very readable and understandable, and preserves the mood and spirit of Dante's original work.
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arhar
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I think the reason is how bad of a sinner the person was in life. Think of hell as a cone, with layers. Layer one, which is right below the purgatory, is where the "least" sinners are, they are tortured for the least amount of time, and then they move to purgatory (and then to heaven). Then, as the badness of their sins increases, the sinners get put deeper in layers of hell, and have to suffer for a long time in one layer before moving up. The last layer of hell contains only one person: Judas.
Hope that helped!
Hope that helped!
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DÛke
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...I thought there were seven...
...Seven, to match with the seven deadly sins a person could have...
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Level 7, which isn't deep, punishes for Pride:
What it is: Pride is excessive belief in one's own abilities, that interferes with the individual's recognition of the grace of God. It has been called the sin from which all others arise. Pride is also known as Vanity.
Why you do it: Well-meaning elementary school teachers told you to "believe in yourself."
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Level 6, gettin' deeper, punishes for Envy:
What it is: Envy is the desire for others' traits, status, abilities, or situation.
Why you do it: Because other people are so much luckier, smarter, more attractive, and better than you.
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Level 5, punishes for Gluttony:
What it is: Gluttony is an inordinate desire to consume more than that which one requires.
Why you do it: Because you were weaned improperly as an infant.
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Level 4, deep, punishes for Lust:
Lust is an inordinate craving for the pleasures of the body.
Why you do it: Oh, please!!!
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Level 3, which is so close to the deep, punishes for Anger:
Anger is manifested in the individual who spurns love and opts instead for fury. It is also known as Wrath.
Why you do it: You're wired for it. Also, the people around you are pretty damn irritating
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Level 2, just before the final punishment, Covetousness:
Covetousness is the desire for material wealth or gain, ignoring the realm of the spiritual. It is also called Greed.
Why you do it: You live in possibly the most pampered, consumerist society since the Roman Empire.
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Level 1, which is the most most horrible, Sloth:
What it is: Sloth is the avoidance of physical or spiritual work.
Why you do it: You're shiftless, lazy, and good fer nuthin'.
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That's what I thought...where do the 9 come from?
...Seven, to match with the seven deadly sins a person could have...
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Level 7, which isn't deep, punishes for Pride:
What it is: Pride is excessive belief in one's own abilities, that interferes with the individual's recognition of the grace of God. It has been called the sin from which all others arise. Pride is also known as Vanity.
Why you do it: Well-meaning elementary school teachers told you to "believe in yourself."
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Level 6, gettin' deeper, punishes for Envy:
What it is: Envy is the desire for others' traits, status, abilities, or situation.
Why you do it: Because other people are so much luckier, smarter, more attractive, and better than you.
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Level 5, punishes for Gluttony:
What it is: Gluttony is an inordinate desire to consume more than that which one requires.
Why you do it: Because you were weaned improperly as an infant.
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Level 4, deep, punishes for Lust:
Lust is an inordinate craving for the pleasures of the body.
Why you do it: Oh, please!!!
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Level 3, which is so close to the deep, punishes for Anger:
Anger is manifested in the individual who spurns love and opts instead for fury. It is also known as Wrath.
Why you do it: You're wired for it. Also, the people around you are pretty damn irritating
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Level 2, just before the final punishment, Covetousness:
Covetousness is the desire for material wealth or gain, ignoring the realm of the spiritual. It is also called Greed.
Why you do it: You live in possibly the most pampered, consumerist society since the Roman Empire.
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Level 1, which is the most most horrible, Sloth:
What it is: Sloth is the avoidance of physical or spiritual work.
Why you do it: You're shiftless, lazy, and good fer nuthin'.
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That's what I thought...where do the 9 come from?
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terzarima
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That's cool, they made my post a thread. And thank's all for the cool books, but what are they about? They sound really groovy, but somewhat confusing.
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FoundationOfRancor
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Zadok Is right, its the first part in a series, but I belive the middle one goes through Purgatory and limbo. The third one deals with heaven.
Ive only read the first, but it was a really good, fast read. I suggest it.
Ive only read the first, but it was a really good, fast read. I suggest it.
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Cateran Emperor
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DUke: Nice summation there, but the other two layers are:
Level 9 (top, bump all others): Liars and those not baptized go here. They're there for an extremely negligible amount of time.
Level 1 (hoo boy, you're in for it. There is no way out of here): Betrayal, the worst sin that can be committed. I dunno why that one is left out, but it's the Eigth "Super-Duper Rut-Roh I'm Screwed" Sin. Only Judas is kept here, as his betrayal is unrepentant. He isn't ever going to get out either.
Level 9 (top, bump all others): Liars and those not baptized go here. They're there for an extremely negligible amount of time.
Level 1 (hoo boy, you're in for it. There is no way out of here): Betrayal, the worst sin that can be committed. I dunno why that one is left out, but it's the Eigth "Super-Duper Rut-Roh I'm Screwed" Sin. Only Judas is kept here, as his betrayal is unrepentant. He isn't ever going to get out either.
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theorgg
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Longfellow, you said? I'll have to try to find that version. The version I found in my school's library was written in the same style as Beowulf, as in Midevial Engalishe. Rough Stuff.
However, Sac-man, your opinion doesn't count: you already stated to me that you HATE TO READ.
If you don't like it, don't knock it.
However, Sac-man, your opinion doesn't count: you already stated to me that you HATE TO READ.
If you don't like it, don't knock it.
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fuzzy510
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I have no idea. I'll get back to you when Zadok is dead.
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terzarima
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I love digging up the past, don't you?
Since I started this thread, I've read two translations of Dante's Divine commedia and three of the Inferno. And I now own Robert Pinsky's Inferno, and soon (For christmas... buwahaha... I know what my parents are getting me) W.S Merwin's translation of Purgatorio...
I don't suppose anyone would like to start an intellectual discussion upon subjects discussed within?
Since I started this thread, I've read two translations of Dante's Divine commedia and three of the Inferno. And I now own Robert Pinsky's Inferno, and soon (For christmas... buwahaha... I know what my parents are getting me) W.S Merwin's translation of Purgatorio...
I don't suppose anyone would like to start an intellectual discussion upon subjects discussed within?