U/B Discard Help?

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The Lotus

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Well, I'm at it again with a U/B Discard deck that I really want to build, but I wanna run it by you guys and get some suggestions first.

x3 Abyssal Specter
x2 Doomsday Specter
x3 Ravenous Rats
x3 Chilling Apparition
x2 Avatar of Will <Cast this for UU? Or a waste of space>

x4 Duress
x3 Stupor
x2 Addle
x4 Recoil
x3 Unsummon
x4 Counterspell <Can't do without them>
x2 Lobotomy
x4 Dark Ritual

x12 Swamp
x10 Island
x3 Salt Marsh

Total # of Cards: 64 <What should I trim?>
 
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Jake74

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-1 Abyssal Specter (2 is enough)
-2 Avatar of Will
-3 Unsummon (Recoil is enough)
-2 Dark Ritual (burst not needed)
+4 Cavern Harpy (bounce the rats)

What do you think??
 
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Istanbul

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-2 Avatar of Will
-3 Unsummon
-4 Dark Ritual
-3 Stupor
-2 Swamp
+1 Ravenous Rats
+3 Rackling
+3 Bog Down
+2 Megrim
+2 Reprocess
 
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Jake74

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ok, I agree with getting rid of the stupors, but I don't think adding reprocess will help.
rackling and megrim are just alternate kill and I was keeping it toward creature kill, not actual discard kill, but...

-3 stupor
+1 Ravenous Rats
+2 Addle
(plus my other changes)
 
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Istanbul

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The inherent problem with discard is that it works at Sorcery speed.
This means that sure, you can empty your opponent's hand...but whatever he draws then, he can play that turn.
So yeah, he's in topdeck mode...but you're basically helpless against what he topdecks.
Rackling was in there so that your opponent wouldn't topdeck something to stop you. One Air Elemental, and your deck stops working. Burning Bridges looks at this deck and *laughs*. Oh no, Brer Fox, don't throw me into the briar patch! Don't make me discard!
Megrim is there to put those extra few game-winning points of hurt on, and it makes Recoil twice as painful.
 
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The Lotus

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x3 Abyssal Specter
x2 Doomsday Specter
x4 Ravenous Rats
x3 Chilling Apparition

x4 Duress
x4 Addle
x4 Counterspell
x3 Lobotomy
x3 Bog Down
x3 Megrim
x3 Rackling <How does this keep an opponent from topdecking?>
x2 Coercion

x10 Swamp
x10 Island
x3 Salt Marsh
 
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