Origins

[Captain Caveman]

I'm thinking about going to Origins. There are some idea's I've
been kicking around. Any and all help is welcome as well as
other deck ideas and decklist


Creature Only Format:

UPdates:

Kibler's Aggro-black(mod)
17 Swamp
4 Tainted Peak
4 Badlands
1 Volrath's Stronghold

4 Nantuko Shade
4 Mesmeric Fiend
4 Ravenous Rats
4 Phyrexian Rager
4 Braids, Cabal Minion
2 Shambling Swarm
2 Ichorid
2 Grim Lavamancer
4 Flametongue Kavu
3 Bone Shredder
1 Coffin Queen(all I have, darn it)

Sideboard:
4 Bane of the Living
4 Rotlung Reanimator
x ?
2 Mortivore
1 Ichorid


Cleric's
(updated with better decklist, I think)



Wondicore

4 Aquamoeba
4 Arrogant Wurm
4 Basking Rootwalla
4 Merfolk Looter
4 River Boa
4 Wild Mongrel
3 Wonder
3 Squee, Goblin Naboo
4 Waterfront Bouncer
3 Masticore

7 Forest
6 Island
4 Tropical Island
4 Yavimaya Coast
3 Gaea's Cradle

 

[DeathMaster666]

Some sort of UG Madness variant would be the best, especially if you could get your hands on Bazaar of Baghdad (its legal since its a land). White Weenie might not be bad either, or something with creature-based removal (Banes of the Living, Nekrataal, and bounce to return stuff to your hand). Spellshapers are also a good idea here, because they turn creature cards in your hand into non-creature spells.

 

[Istanbul]

I like Coffin Queen with Braids.

In response to Braids, I reanimate a guy, then sac him to Braids. Suddenly, Braids has a downside for you, but not for me.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Coffin Queen sounds great.

Update some new/revised ideas:

More updates with cards I have or can borrow:


Fat Mono-White
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1 Akroma, Angel of Wrath
1 Reya Dawnbringer
4 Paladin En-Vec
4 Gold Myr
3 Eternal Dragon
4 Exalted Angel
4 Silver Knight
2 Mageta the Lion
3 Blinding Angel
4 White Knight
4 Mother of Runes

23 Plains
3 Secluded Steppe


Cleric's
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4 Master Apothecary
4 Planar Guide
4 Mother of Runes
4 Order of Leitbur
4 Shaman En-Kor
4 Soul Warden
2 Doubtless One
3 Soltari Monk
4 Beloved Chaplain
4 Soltari Priest
1 Kor Haven
2 Starlit Sanctum
20 Plains



the Angel Deck
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4 Gold Myr
1 Iridescent Angel
4 Mother of Runes
4 Volrath's Shapeshifter
4 Blue Familiar
2 Guiding Spirit
1 Reya Dawnbringer
4 Voice of All
4 Serra Angel
1 Radiant, Archangel
1 Akroma, Angel of Wrath
4 Exalted Angel
3 Blinding Angel

12 Plains
4 Flooded Strand
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Tundra




Cabal of Darkness
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Updated with better decklist.



Any ideas welcome

 

[Captain Caveman]

More ideas............. Time to proxie

CinderBall
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4 Llanowar Elves
4 Fyndhorn Elves
3 Wirewood Symbiote
4 Priest of Titania
4 Seeker of Skybreak
3 Timberwatch Elf
4 Derranged Hermit
4 Wirewood Herald
4 Bloodline Shaman
1 Wirewood Channeler
4 Cinder Elemental
1 Caller if the Claw

4 Taiga
4 Gaea's Cradle
4 Wirewood Lodge
4 Karplusan Forest
4 Forest

*Cinder Elemental is the Combo kill




Gildie-Locks(updated with new decklist)
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*Gilded Drake has to be good, right?




Fortune 500
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4 Wirewood Lodge
7 Forest
4 Brushland
4 Savannah
3 City of Brass
1 Windswept Heath

4 Ageless Enity
3 Ravenous Baloth
2 Caller of the Claw
4 Birds of Paradise
4 Exalted Angel
3 Seeker of Skybreak
4 Wellwisher
4 Wirewood Herald
4 Llanowar Elves
3 Timberwatch Elf
2 Mageta the Lion

Sideboard:
4 Phantom Centaur
4 Spellbane Centaur

*That could be Fun. Fat Ageless




Slivers
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3 Shifting Sliver
4 Crystalline Sliver
4 Crypt Sliver
4 Essence Sliver
4 Plated Sliver
4 Winged Sliver
4 Spectral Sliver
4 Muscle Sliver
1 Ward Sliver
1 Synapse Sliver
1 Toxin Sliver
1 Sliver Overlord
1 Sliver Queen

4 Thran Quarry
4 Tundra
4 Undergrouund Sea
4 Tropical Island
4 City of Brass
3 Reflecting Pool
1 Crystal Quarry


*Can't really think of anything else for Slivers

I got bored, so I thought I'd post some idea's.

 

[Istanbul]

For Gildie-Locks...how about Dominating Licid, in case what you get sucks, so that you can take the Drake back? Better yet, how about Waterfront Bouncer, so you can keep making the trade over and over and over again?

 

[Captain Caveman]

Isy, you the man. I never was happy with the Gilded Decklist. That
decklist was based off the Ageless deck.

New Gildie-Locks: oops update again(to remove Lodge and Llanowar)

Gildie-Locks v2.o
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4 Morphling
3 Gilded Drake
2 Dominating Licid
4 Birds of Paradise
4 Tradewind Rider
4 Seedborn Muse
4 Waterfront Bouncer
4 Wall of Roots
4 Merfolk Looter
4 Wall of Blossoms

7 Forest
8 Island
4 Yavimaya Coast
4 Tropical Island

Sideboard:
4 Phantom Centaur
4 Spellbane Centaur

 

[Istanbul]

Cool, but...why are you playing Lodge? Your only Elves are 4 Llanowars, and you can't double-tap them for Tradewind. I suggest 3 Islands and one Forest in their place. Maybe some Merfolk Looters in place of your Birds of Paradise - they'll help you sift through unimportant cards, and they're still creatures you can tap with Tradewind.

 

[DeathMaster666]

BG AggroControl
4x Carnophage
4x Sacromancy
4x Nantuko Shade
4x Bane of the Living
4x Graveborn Muse
4x Wall of Shadows (this is a great card vs creature decks)
4x Birds of Paradise
4x Spiritmonger
4x Braids

4x Bayou
4x Llanowar Wastes
12x Swamp
2x Lake of the Dead
2x City of Brass

It could use a bit of tweaking.

 

[Captain Caveman]

DeathMaster666,

Your version of "the Rock" variant looks pretty interesting. We
need to remove Sacromancy, though. Its and Enchantment, I
think. That slot could be filled with Wall:Blossoms/Roots or
even Skinthinner/Bone Shredder. I'll proxie it up and give it
a try.


Limited Play-test results: Please remember these results are
based on two casual players and there deck ideas. there is not
meta-game I'm aware of. So its anybodies guess what will
be played. If you happen to already know whats strong please
let me know and we'll play with it and against it.





Gildie-Locks worked pretty well. If the Seedborn and two TwR's
in up in play at the same time the effects can be powerful, of
course.(6 creatures total)
Games: 6W/2L


CinderBall is 50/50. Sometimes it was fast and other times it
just flat-out died. Refello's is pointless in a deck with to few
forest. The decklist needs revised. It might get better.
Games: 4W/4L


Didn't play Fortune 500. Probably next week.

Slivers, Fat Mono-White, Cleric's, Cabal of Darkness, Wondicore
same as above


Kibler's Aggro Black. I know the deck works but I did not have
good luck with it. Going in I thought it would rule the day. It
could be bad-player syndrome that cause the negative outcome.
Or maybe my brothers Shapeshifter deck just beats this deck.
I went 3W/7L with this deck. Five of the loses came from the
Shapeshifter deck. Its one of those decks that will not work for
anyone else but is good it the hands of the designer.(shifter)
Platinum Angel, Tidal Kraken, Spirit of the Night, and other
random fatties are back-breaking.

My brother has a rules question about the Shifter deck. If he
discards an Eater of Days to the Shifter effect does he have to
skip two turns?


Richard.dec was fun and it won a few games. Its the Jamie
Wakefield theory of Magic. "Its that last Fattie that kills you."
Over-all the deck is probably not strong enough but it was
great to win a few games with a theme deck.
Games: 2W/1L

Just a note about the test games no sideboards were used. We
just played to see if a deck was worth consideration.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Ater thinking about the BG AggroControl, Deathmaster666 posted
I got to wondering if a semi-aggro B/G deck would work.

Here's my idea:


4 Llanowar Elves
4 Wirewood Herald
4 Nantuko Husk
4 Bane of the Living
4 Caller of the Claw
4 Ravenous Baloth/spike feeder(combo's w/village)
4 Birds of Paradise
4 Penumbra Bobcat
1 Spiritmonger
2 Fallen Angel
2 Genesis

4 Bayou
4 Llanowar Wastes
12 Forest
3 Treetop Village

 

[Istanbul]

Originally posted by Captain Caveman
My brother has a rules question about the Shifter deck. If he
discards an Eater of Days to the Shifter effect does he have to
skip two turns?

No. Eater of Days has a comes-into-play triggered ability. Since the Shifter isn't coming into play as an Eater, it doesn't have the drawback.

 

[DeathMaster666]

I don't know if you want to run Fallen Angel, though it is a nice touch. I'd just make that 3 Spiritmongers.

 

[Istanbul]

Agreed. Spiritmonger > Fallen Angel.

Mind you, Spiritmonger > most everything.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Y'all ,could be right about the Spiritmonger thing. I'll try it
both ways and see which one I like the best. The Angel gives
me that "I win now" potential with Caller/herald/Bobcat/ and
other random dudes. Of course, I'm assuming I've already done
some damage.


Does anyone else have an idea of what might be worth testing?
I'm almost positive I'll be going and I'd like to know what all to
expect.

?
Cleric's
Lots of Black and Red CiP' dudes

 

[Captain Caveman]

I got to thinking about Kibler's Aggro-black and the Coffin Queen
thing came up with this variant. I need more Queens but oh well.

I've also updated some of my other decklist. With cards I've got
or can atleast borrow.

Kibler's Aggro-black(mod2)
17 Swamp
4 Tainted Isle
4 Underground Sea
1 Volrath's Stronghold

4 Nantuko Shade
4 Mesmeric Fiend
4 Ravenous Rats
4 Phyrexian Rager
4 Braids, Cabal Minion
2 Shambling Swarm
2 Ichorid
2 Merfolk Looter
4 Man O' War
3 Bone Shredder
1 Coffin Queen(all I have, darn it)

Sideboard:
x ?
4 Withered Wretch
4 Bane of the Living
2 Mortivore
1 Ichorid

 

[DeathMaster666]

I can trade you a Coffin Queen if you want, for pretty cheap. Why not run Carnophage though?

 

[Captain Caveman]

DeathMaster666,

I'm probably interested but I'm not sure yet. I'll now for sure it
a few weeks. I'll proxie one more to see, in the meanwhile.
Thanks,



Another idea. I have some free time to think so I'm going deck
crazy. Oh my God, I have an illness


Beastie Boyz
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4 Savannah
3 City of Brass
3 Contested Cliffs
2 Forest
4 Badlands
1 Mountain
3 Plains
4 Taiga

4 Anurid Brushhopper
4 Birds of Paradise
3 Exalted Angel
3 Glory
4 Llanowar Elves
4 Ravenous Baloth
4 Wild Mongrel
1 Genesis
3 Spiritmonger(king of the beast)
2 Feirce Empath
1 Nishoba dude(which one?)
1 Krosan Tusker
1 Feral Throwback
1 Chartooth Cougar

 

[train]

Man O Wars in gildie locks?...

 

[DeathMaster666]

Here's something random -

4x Birds of Paradise
4x Jackal Pup
4x Carnophage
4x Savannah Lions
4x Dauthi Horror
4x Blurred Mongoose
4x Viridian Zealot
4x Jorael's Centaur
4x Blastoderm
2x Spiritmonger

4x City of Brass
4x Wooded Foothills
4x Windswept Heath
4x Taiga
3x Bayou
3x Savannah

I don't know how it'll work, and its just a rough decklist.