One Big Deck

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Venton

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I saw a thread on the Boardgame Geek a while back about playing magic with one BIG deck where both/all players share the same library and graveyard.
Well that peaked my interest, so i decided to try it out for myself.
Here is the thread I started, along with a couple of my original posts:
http://boardgamegeek.com/article/1658438#1658438

All Players use the same library and graveyard.
Here is the previous thread:
http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/184845

After reading the earlier thread, I'm curious to try it out. I'd like to get some tip/ideas on the best way to put it together.
IIRC the original poster went with a 150 card, five-color library. I'm thinking of upping that to 200 or maybe even 300 cards.
I think I'm going to make it a highlander deck (no more than one of each card, except basic land).

Library recursion? I'm thinking along the lines of old cards like Animate Dead and Shallow Grave. Flashback would be cool, as well as threshold.
I'll probably avoid major library fiddling, like Fact Or Fiction and Impulse

Color Hosers: Going to leave them out.

Mana help: Someone suggesting have a side-deck of basic land. Players can choose to draw from that instead of the regular library on their turn. Sounds like a good idea. I'll probably put some artifact mana in the regular deck as well.

Any thoughts?
Ok, so I've put together something.

I went with 300 cards, five-color highlander.
It currently breaks down like this:
120 land (80 (now 90) basic)
100 creatures (18 of each color, 10 artifact creatures)
80 other spells (20 artifacts, 13 of those mana-producing


After dealing some test hands to see how it came out (serious mana problems) I decided to put the basic land in a separate mini-deck.
When dealing hands, each player gets two basic lands (I might up it to three) and five from the regular deck. There's 18 nonbasic land in the main deck, so opening mana shouldn't be a problem.
If a player draws a card he can choose to draw from the main deck or from the land deck.. I played a few test games with a friend and this seems to work ok.

I avoided any library search cards and but i did include some flashback and other take X from your graveyard cards.

One nice thing is I got to break out some stuff I rarely used. I put in the Volvers and Masters from Invasion block as well as the split cards, aslo from Invasion. I tried to stick with mostly cards with one colored mana in the casting cost to avoid more mana screwage.

I don't get to play much Magic these days, but I'm going to try to rope a couple of friends into giving this another test.

Here is some of the fun stuff I included.
Tek
Dakkon Blackblade
Questing Phelddagrif
Rubinia Soulsinger

Ray of Command
Juxtapose removed
Vindicate
Magma Mine
Xanthic Statue
I've played quite a few games with some friends and it seems to go over pretty well. Sometimes it gets down to a bit of a creature stalemate.
I've been tweaking it here and there: added more direct damage/creature removal, more counter spells and swapped out some two-coloured-mana casting cost cards to for less mana screwage. I also removed some of the "comes into play tapped" lands since they were slowing things down.
Right now the opening hand is four cards from library and three basic land.
 

Ransac

CPA Trash Man
I've experimented with this concept as well. After I bought a box of Planar Chaos, I fished though all the cards I had on me and seperated all of my slivers of all rarities. Then, I shoved all of them together, added a crapload of basic and multi-colored lands, some choice Bomb sorceries.

This created a near 500-card mass that I would shuffle together, cut into a number equal to the players we had, and fight a sliver brawl the likes of which you have never seen.


Amazing. If anybody wants to drive to Cleveland to experience the ingenious that is the "Sliver Pile," let me know.


Ransac, cpa trash man
 

Spiderman

Administrator
Staff member
Heh, a long time ago when I didn't have many cards, I tried to teach my girlfriend how to play by using just a 60 card deck... :)
 

Ransac

CPA Trash Man
JUST a 60-card deck? We're talking 150-500 card decks and you bring in a non-triple digit number?!?! Sounds like down to me.

Thanks, Debbie.


Ransac, cpa trash man
 

Spiderman

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Staff member
Hey, I only had about 120-150 cards at the time. If you can make a decent deck out of that, you're a god ;)
 
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Venton

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Just because I'm completely insane, here's my current Big Deck;
edit: I'm not sure why some of the links don't work, but oh well.

Main Library
Black
diseased_vermin
nekrataal
necravolver
nightscape_apprentice
nightscape_master
bone_shredder
crypt_rats
childhood_horror
spineless_thug
hypnotic_specter
crypt_angel
nightscape_battlemage
sengir_vampire
apprentice_necromancer
tar_pit_warrior
will_o_the_wisp

dark_banishing
ritual_of_the_machine
vampiric_embrace
terror
Death Stroke
dread_return
agonizing_demise
soul_burn
paralyze
unholy_strength

Blue
peregrine_drake
cetavolver
stormscape_battlemage
clone
stormscape_apprentice
stormscape_master
cloud_djinn
manta_riders
chambered_nautilus
mahamoti_djinn
man_o_war
great_whale
tim
Silver Wyvern
merfolk_looter

twitch
desertion
power_sink
counterspell
brainstorm
mana_leak
exclude
ray_of_command
control_magic
spell_blast
curiosity
deflection
zephids_embrace

Green
pouncing_jaguar
sylvan_hierophant
thornscape_master
thornscape_apprentice
thornscape_battlemage
elvish_ranger
uktabi_orangutan
autumn_willow
hunted_wumpus
stalking_tiger
Crash_of_Rhinos
elvish_archers
rootwalla
erhnam_djinn

rancor
moments_peace
refresh
creeping_mold
hurricane
gaeas_embrace
symbiosis
regrowth
crumble
giant_growth
recollect

Red
thunderscape_apprentice
thunderscape_master
skizzik
brassclaw_orcs
ironclaw_orcs
thunderscape_battlemage
goblin_berserker
Craven Giant
shivan_dragon
rakavolver
flametongue_kavu
jackal_pup
bogardan_firefiend
uthden_troll
goblin_balloon_brigade

Fling
volcanic_hammer
blazing_salvo
lightning_bolt
isintegrate
earthquake
Blood Lust
retribution
shivs_embrace
rolling_thunder
incinerate

White
sunscape_apprentice
sunscape_master
heavy_ballista
degavolver
benalish_knight
radiant_archangel
D'Avenant Archer
cloudchaser_eagle
longbow_archer
diving_griffin
flickering_spirit
savannah_lions
serra_angel
combat_medic
sunscape_battlemage

pollen_remedy
Gallantry
pacifism
reprisal
miraculous_recovery
serras_embrace
disenchant
hope_and_glory
orims_thunder
rebuff_the_wicked
swords_to_plowshare

Multi
lightning_angel
Rubinia Soulsinger
tempest_drake
Viashivan_Dragon
llanowar_knight
vodalian_zombie
galinas_knight
yavimaya_barbarian
shivan_zombie
samite_archer
raging_kavu
voracious_cobra
urborg_drake
Dakkon Blackblade
jungle_troll
questing_phelddagrif
lord_of_tresserhorn
goblin_legionnaire
sky_spirit
selenia_dark_angel

terminate
crosiss_charm
darigaazs_charm
dromars_charm
riths_charm
trevas_charm
gerrards_command
undermine
absorb
backlash
squees_embrace
vindicate
kaerveks_purge
fire/ice
illusion/reality
life/death
night/day
order/chaos

Artifacts
juggernaut
arcbound_slith
obsianus_golem
yotian_soldier
clay_statue
brass_secretary
bottle_gnomes
coiled_tinviper
tek

seashell_cameo
bloodstone_cameo
drake_skull_cameo
troll_horn_cameo
tigereye_cameo
prismatic_lens
mana_cylix
mana_prism
sol_ring
chromatic_star
chromatic_sphere
fellwar_stone
pit_trap
serrated_arrows
skull_catapult
phyrexian_splicer
jalum_tome
rod_of_ruin
jayemdae_tome
urzas_blueprints
xanthic_statue
helm_of_obedience
power_matrix
aeolipile
vulshok_Morningstar
Neurok_Hoversail

Land Library
55 basic land
40 nonbasic including:FE sac lands, PS lairs, IA pain lands, AP pain lands, MM storage lands, etc.
 
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