Newsflash! Planeshift Land Spoiler!

Discussion in 'General CPA Stuff' started by Chaos Turtle, Dec 29, 2000.

  1. Chaos Turtle Demiurgic CPA Member, Admin Assistant

    The aformentioned Dragon's Lairs....


    This is drfatable, being a non-green way to help out multicolor decks. Might even see some contructed play in non green decks wishing to smooth out mana sources. (In off-color decks?)

    Looks better than it is.
    After all, you have to have had that color mana at some point already, right?
    You don't want this in your opening hand, doesn't even make colorless mana.
    Makes me wish Reflecting Pool would come back..

    God, this is even worse.


    Oh well, the Dragon Lairs are interesting, and Terminal Moraine may even be good. The new 5-color lands, though, are nothing to get excited about.
  2. Chaos Turtle Demiurgic CPA Member, Admin Assistant

    Oops, I forgot to credit the source!
    [color="0000ff"]Mag2[/color] (click it!)
  3. Purple_jester New Member

    Mag2 got almost everything right when t came to Invasion, so these lands are probably the real thing. Terminal Moraine might indeed see play. Meteor Crater has even better prospects. The Forsaken City won't see use unless there is a way to abuse having few cards in your hand...

    Uh, oh. Suddenly, those rumors involving Cursed Scroll might not exactly be rumors... :(
  4. Istanbul Sucker MCs call me sire.

    My GOD, Forsaken City is a stinking pile! Expect some groan pulls with that one.

    Terminal Moraine seems amusing, but probably won't get played much at all.

    Now, Meteor Crater looks somewhat playable. Still, as originally said, you don't want to see it in your opening hand. I think it should've been uncommon, due to the fact that by the time it's good, you don't really need it anymore.
  5. DÛke Memento Mori

    ...did you all notice, that we haven't seen MUCH of Planeshift yet, however, there are a good number of cards that "return" cards to your hand. We haven't even seen the whole thing yet. You know, I THINK that Cursed Scroll IS, in fact, in Planeshift. I really do.
  6. Bladefall New Member

    Well, Meteor Crater will most likely see constructed play. As will Terminal Moraine. Forsaken City is horrible, a definite throw away card.

    Planeshift, should be a very interesting set....
  7. Zadok001 CPA Founder, Greater Good


    If you think about it, Forsaken City isn't HORRIBLE, per se. It's certainly not a good card, but it's not the worst land I've ever seen. It's a painless City for a turn, and by pitching other lands, it taps again for more mana on the next turn. Basically, it turns all the extra lands you draw into Lotus Petals.

    That doesn't seem like a wonderful effect, but to be honest, that thing is very likely superior to Henge of Ramos. It may see extremely limited play in 5c decks designed to work around the drawback.

    But I doubt it. :)

    As for the other lands, Meteor Crater is mediocre, but the Moraine is quite powerful - It's like a stronger Mirage search land. The effect can be quite devestating in Limited, for sure, allowing you to play single copies of lands to take advantage of Domain spells. I like that thing.

    [NEWSFLASH #2! Lord of the Undead is up:

    Lord of the Undead - 1BB
    Creature - Lord; 2/2
    All Zombies get +1/+1.
    1B, T: Return target Zombie.

    Obviously, the second ability is phrased incorrectly. I presume it means from the graveyard to your hand, in which case Pyre Zombie now has cheaper recursion. :) Whoop-de-doo. Anyone got good Zombies in Type 2? Heck, anyone got good Zombies in TYPE 1?) -- Zadok001, edited in]

    [Sheesh. I just keep missing these...

    Tsabo's Manipulation
    Deal 3 damage to target creature. If that creature was destroyed, gain control of it until end of your next turn.
    "You thought that was painful? What 'til you help me with my next victim!"
    - Tsabo Tavoc

    Again, the wording is flawed, but there ya' go... --Zadok001, edited in again, same source as everything else,]
  8. Chaos Turtle Demiurgic CPA Member, Admin Assistant

    I have my doubts about this one; the wording is just too awful.

    I'm guessing, blue/black, since that's what Tsabo is, but this would have to cost 2UB at the very least, to get the 3 damage and a bonus. (Unless they are making off-color spells, in which case 2RU makes a lot more sense.)

    So anyway, here's my best guess at a correct version.

    Otherwise, it might have a goes-to-the-graveyard trigger instead of the replacement ability I suggested.

    I also think it shuld be an instant. If it's a sorcery, it should cost 2UB, and still wouldn't be half as good as if it was an instant.

    Oh, well, enough babbling from me for now! ;)
  9. Chaos Turtle Demiurgic CPA Member, Admin Assistant

    Okay, I know it's way too soon to start thinking of combos for a set that's not even out yet, but...

    (and I'll admit this isn't amazing)

    Meteor Crater + Tidal Visionary = 5-color land

    Just tap the Visionary, targetting itself, and name the color of mana you want.

    Say hello to 5-color blue?

    [edited by CT - typing is hard]

    [Edited by Chaos Turtle on 12-29-00 at 04:06 PM]
  10. Cateran Emperor Passed On

    [me]snaps fingers[/me], you got there first!

    It's good to see Black finally get a more proper Lord card (Zombie Master always has been blatantly less useful than the other Lords as more than one is dead weight). Now all we need is a White Lord. Knights? Clerics (nah, that would be silly)

    Forbidden City I initially saw as broken combo fuel, until I saw that you had to remove a card at the beginning of your upkeep. Were it not for that, we have some fun with crazy card-mana engines such as good old Bargain. Imagine, Skirge Familiar for any color...

    Meteoric Crater is an interesting twist on color manipulation, yet as I look at it more the logical extension. Still, Reflecting Pool was much better in most any case.

    Terminal Moraine (anyone know what a moraine is?) should be one less mana to activate, or not require a sac. Then I would like it a lot more.

    Tsabo's Manipulation, I can't give a first impression on yet as there is no mana cost stated. I guess we wait...
  11. Duel Has Less Posts Than Spiderman

    Actually, I like terminal moraine. It can be kept untapped for instant mana, and then, at the end of your turn, can be used. It's simply a worse, instant rampant growth, that gives you mana and isn't green...
  12. Chaos Turtle Demiurgic CPA Member, Admin Assistant

    As a glacier moves, it deposits (and pushes) earth and stones along its way. This deposit is called moraine.

    Also, on the Terminal Moraine issue, I think that it's better than Rampant Growth, since it costs the same amount of mana - only colorless - and is much more difficult to counter, as well as being useful on its own if you need mana right away.
  13. Duel Has Less Posts Than Spiderman

    It is better. when I said worse, mean it simlpy because it costs 3 in effect. However, I'd replace growth with it in my deck any day.

    Can YOU hear MY footseps, oh shelled one?
  14. Chaos Turtle Demiurgic CPA Member, Admin Assistant


    You're way behind me, O circling-around one!

    I on the other hand am right behind you!.
  15. Duel Has Less Posts Than Spiderman

    Moraine is bette than harrow, BTW.

    Hey, turtle, we might as well chat. We practiaclly are anyways. Join me in the chat room?
  16. Chaos Turtle Demiurgic CPA Member, Admin Assistant

    Well, okay...
    I'm falling behind anyways...
  17. Duel Has Less Posts Than Spiderman

    Damn, I can't get in.... Oh well.

    [me]'s thumbs hurt....[/me]
  18. Chaos Turtle Demiurgic CPA Member, Admin Assistant

    A trick!

    To get me to lose your trail!


    Um, don't you have mIRC? I'm on NewNet, #type-random...
  19. Duel Has Less Posts Than Spiderman

    Nope. Got ICQ, though. And AIM, and MSN messenger. Get on ICQ?
  20. Thallid Ice Cream Man 21sT CeNTuRy sChIZoId MaN

    Chaos Turtle + Duel: More spam, people.

    I'm not sure if anyone has noticed this yet, but you can untap Forsaken City under Rising Waters, making it better than City of Brass in that case. It would fit very well into a Waters deck if it was trying to get some off-color mana for some reason...

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