Nether-Go Deck

Discussion in 'Casual Decks/Variants/Etc' started by Vyncent D'Jesus, Jan 1, 2001.

  1. Vyncent D'Jesus New Member

    x4 Opt
    x4 Fact or Fiction
    x2 Misdirection
    x3 Recoil
    x3 Spite/Malace
    x4 Counterspell
    x4 Nether Spirit
    x3 Foil
    x3 Bribery
    x2 Undermine
    x4 Dark Rituals

    x7 Swamp
    x13 Island
    x4 Underground River

    x3 Perish
    x2 Massacre
    x2 Undermine
    x1 Misdirection
    x3 Cremate
    x3 Tefri's Response
    x1 Tsabo's Decree

    tell me what you think

    [Edited by Vyncent D'Jesus on 01-03-01 at 05:44 PM]
  2. Duel Has Less Posts Than Spiderman

    I'd be worried about speed. Fires can get a fires out before you can counterspell it. Derms provide a problem unless you have a nether spirit and get it out by turn 3 as well, which means being tapped out, which no deck likes. Especially not control.

    I'd throw in 4 rituals. They allow for a first turn spirit, a second turn spite/malice or FoF, and a third turn bribery.

    The sideboard should probably include at least oen tsabo's decree, which is better against counter-rebel or rebel than massacre.

    Brainstorm is not as good as opt. Use that instead.
  3. Vyncent D'Jesus New Member

    well about the not getting a nether spirit by turn 3...thats why i have the foils...counter an early spell with the discarding an island and a nether spirit...bringing the spirit into play

    but thanx for the help i think i will add the rituals
  4. Gizmo Composite: 1860

    I disagree. The Rituals are just a combo with one of your other cards, but you end up using two cards to do one effect. Just playing more cheap cards would bring the deck to be more effective in the early game without losing your card advantage.
    For me the main problme is that too many of your cards are very conditional (there are only so many times thay you wll be able to usefully cast them) and yet you have 4 copies of them all. You want to draw the card when you need it, yes, but you are also giving yourself the chance to draw it when you don`t need it, and the spells (especially the expensive ones) are so narrow in purpose that they are useless if the game plan goes even slightly wrong.

    2 Power Sink
    4 Counterspell
    4 Undermine
    3 Foil
    2 Spite/Malice

    3 Recoil
    3 Tsabo`s Decree

    3 Nether Spirit
    2 Bribery

    4 Opt
    4 Accumulated Knowledge
    3 Fact Or Fiction

    4 Underground River
    6 Swamp
    12 Island

    The land is light, but with 4 Opt and 4 Knowledge you are playing as though your deck were only 50 cards so it should be plenty.

    4 Massacre
    3 Perish
    2 Cremate
    2 Tsabo`s Web
    2 Dominate
    2 Terror
  5. Duel Has Less Posts Than Spiderman

    Spite/malice strikes me as extremely versatile. why isn't it in here with 4 copies?
  6. Vyncent D'Jesus New Member

    hey Duel...there is 4 copies of Spite/Malace in there
  7. Cateran Emperor Passed On

    I haven't played B/U for quite some time, but several of the players in my area have come up with an unorthodox pair of creatures to use: Evil Eye of Orms-by-Gore and Glacial Wall.

    Yes that's right, a wall in a constructed deck that doesn't produce mana or draw cards. For anyone who doesn't know:

    Evil Eye of Orms-By-Gore
    Creaure - (I honestly don't remember, but I think it is Evil Eye or some such thing)
    Creatures you control cannot attack except for Evil Eye.
    Evil Eye cannot be blocked except by walls.

    Glacial Wall
    Creature - Wall

    Naturally, they dropped the Nether Spirit, but it works remarkably well against Fires and Rebels (the only really big beatdown decks right now)
  8. Duel Has Less Posts Than Spiderman

    Well, rebels have trouble with both cards. Big butts are good things, and these creatures provide them. Both survive derms and Jhovall Queens. But I think they lack versatility. If you use those, I would add in a thrasher or a pestilence for mass removal.
  9. Gizmo Composite: 1860

    But if you run creatures your Nether Spirits get pretty crappy.
  10. Vyncent D'Jesus New Member

    yes i am not putting any creatures in this deck except for the nethers...but i will think about the fact that lots of cards are conditional

    i was thinknig about putting in 2 lobodomies...any comments on that
  11. Duel Has Less Posts Than Spiderman

    Yes. They're GOOD. But slow.
    You must go first for lobotmy to be effective. AND you must cast it before one of these hits:
    Blinding Angel

    you see the problem here? None of the really big threats cost more than 5. Meaning that if you do not cast it o turn 4, chances are it's really bad. Plus most of these decks have either counterspells or acceleration.
  12. Vyncent D'Jesus New Member

    ...what kind of accelerations do oyu think i can put in here to make this deck faster...
  13. Gizmo Composite: 1860

    Personally I would avoid Lobotomy in the maindeck, because it is unlikely to catch anything really important, and tapping out to cast it would leave you counter-less. Personally I think the deck should just run more countermagic, that`s usually a good enough answer.
  14. Duel Has Less Posts Than Spiderman


    I HATE this card. Anyways I always will.

    Besides, when given the choice between disruption and counterspells, I will run 8 counterspells and the rest disruption.
  15. Gizmo Composite: 1860

    I`d go the other way, but with the number 0 replacing the number 8. Disruption is terrible compared to Countermagic. They don`t tap out, and they can topdeck another good card. If Addle tapped lands in their upkeep equal to the casting cost of the spell your discarded, THEN it would start to be on a par with countermagic.

    Rage is no sort of threat - they need 12 land. You kill them before they get that.
  16. Duel Has Less Posts Than Spiderman

    Yeah, I know. But I think armageddon is worth at least 2 counterspells.

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