Fires

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Captain Caveman

Guest
I know...

Fires is probably dead and I should trying something new but
here's my Nov. Type II idea.



What should I do to make it better?

4 Birds of Paradise
4 Llanowar Elves
4 Fire/Ice
4 Fires of Yavimaya
4 Nimble Mongoose
3 Flametongue Kavu
4 Thornscape Battlemage
4 Call of the Herd
3 Ivy Elemental
7 Mountain
11 Forest
4 Barbarian Ring
4 Karplusan Forest


Card Name: Barbarian Ring
Card Color: L
Mana Cost: Land
Type & Class: Land
Pow/Tou:
Card Text: Tap: Add R to your mana pool. Barbarian
Ring deals 1 damage to you. Threshold - R, Tap, Sacrifice
Barbarian Ring: Barbarian Ring deals 2 damage to target
creature or player. (Play this ability only if seven
or more cards are in your graveyard.)


Card Name: Call of the Herd
Card Color: G
Mana Cost: 2G
Type & Class: Sorcery
Pow/Tou:
Card Text: Put a 3/3 green Elephant creature token
into play. Flashback 3G (You may play this card from
your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then remove
it from the game.)
Flavor Text:
Artist: Carl Critchlow
Rarity: R
Card #: 231/350


Card Name: Ivy Elemental
Card Color: G
Mana Cost: XG
Type & Class: Creature - Elemental
Pow/Tou: 0/0
Card Text: Ivy Elemental comes into play with X
+1/+1 counters on it.
Flavor Text: In the gardens of the centaurs, many
travelers have mysteriously vanished while admiring
the elaborate topiaries.
Artist: Ron Spencer
Rarity: R
Card #: 245/350
 
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Griffith_se

Guest
Decimate?
2RG
sorcery
destroy target artifact, creature, enchantment,
and land.

Saproling Symbosis(sp?)

Overrun

Assult/Battery instead of Fire/Ice, correct?

<shrug>
 
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Gizmo

Guest
I really like Fires in new T2.

Fires was good becaue it had resistance to targetted removal (Burst and Derm) resitance to Wrath (haste and Burst) and resistance to blockers (Wurm and Burst).

Adding in the Odyssey flashback monsters gives you resistance to removal because you can replay the creature, resistance to Wrath (Haste and flashback) and resistance to COUNTERS (flashback) so long as your build adds in adequate anti-blocking trample creautures (particularly concerned by Lynx) then you are looking strong for the new field.

4 Birds Of Paradise
4 Llanowar Elf
4 Kavu Titan
4 Thornscape Battlemage
2 Flametongue Kavu
2 Shivan Wurm
1 Shivan Dragon ("Old School!")

3 Firebolt
4 Call of The Herd
4 Fires Of Yavimaya
3 Ghitu Fire/Urzas Rage
2 Beast Attack

2 Barbarian Ring
4 Mossfire Valley
4 Karplusan Forest
4 Mountain
9 Forest
(23 land)

This version is very GR, its the basis from which I`m working before deciding how much I need a splash, and is so what the splash should be.
 
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Mikeymike

Guest
Gizmo's deck looks good.

In regards to Ivy Elemental, I just don't like this guy. For 5 mana you can get a 7/7 trampler, a 5/5 trampler, a 4/4 instant twice, or a 4/4 Ivy with no evasion.
 
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Captain Caveman

Guest
Wow,

I am surprised. I thought David would tell me to move on.


That version looks good to me. I'll give it a try. Thanks


Grif:

Decimate looks so restrictive I wonder if it would be any good
in Type II. I do think it could be a good MP card. Maybe one
per R/G deck.


Saproling Symbosis might be fun though.

Personally I like F/I over A/B but just my preference.

Thanks


Mike,

Out with no evasion. In with something better. Thanks


Mox,

:D
 
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Griffith_se

Guest
Decimate,

Yeah, it looked OK at first, but then... eh maybe not.

What do you think of Krosan Beast? Any good or no?
I would tend to say no but... maybe, I don't know :confused:
 
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Captain Caveman

Guest
I have no idea.

Its probably a janky rare.

Does it have Trample? I can't remember.
 
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Istanbul

Guest
I was going to say Beast Attack in Fires. Replaces Burst, IMHO.
 
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Istanbul

Guest
Originally posted by Captain Caveman
I have no idea.

Its probably a janky rare.

Does it have Trample? I can't remember.
Click to expand...
Krosan Beast lacks trample.
 
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Mikeymike

Guest
I don't think Krosan Beast is bad, I just don't think he fits in fires for the same reason as the elemental. An 8/8 for 4 mana can be all bad. Now if there were a way to give him shadow...:D

Do you think it would be worth splashing white to have access to Rith and/or the Mystic Enforcer? This way your Thornscapes can kick white, which could be useful against Millstone and maybe Static Orb if the person playing it doesn't know what they are doing. Order/Chaos could be interesting to. I don't know, just some thoughts.

Decimate I think will be relegated to MP games, I just can't see it being played in a 1 v 1 no matter what the deck style. However in MP it can be a mighty big wrecking ball to swing around.

R/G/W Fires for gits and shiggles
4 Birds Of Paradise
4 Thornscape Familiar
4 Kavu Titan
3 Thornscape Battlemage
2 Flametongue Kavu
2 Shivan Wurm
2 Mystic Enforcer
1 Rith, the painbringer

3 Firebolt
3 Call of The Herd
2 Order/Chaos
4 Fires Of Yavimaya (what's this doing in here)
3 Ghitu Fire/Urzas Rage

4 Karplusan Forest
3 Brushland
3 Forges
4 Mountain
7 Forest
2 Plains

The mana looks painful, but its sort of interesting I guess.
 
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Captain Caveman

Guest
I think Rith would fit into my Toolbox. Now if I could just figure
out what else it needs.

Toolbox
4x Birds of Paradise
4x Llanowar Elves
4x ????????????
4x ????????????
2x Shivan Wurm
3x Thornscape Battlemage
2x Thunderscape Battlemage
2x Flametongue Kavu
2x Voice of All
1x Rith, the Awakener
1x Fleetfoot Panther
3x Wax/Wane
4x Eldamari's Call
4x ????????????

4x Karplusan Forest
3x Brushland
2x City of Brass
3x ????????
4x Forest
3x Plains
1x Mountain
 
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Captain Caveman

Guest
Re: Duel

I've though about it but I'm not sure what your getting at.

Eladamri's Call buts the card in your hand.
 
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Wonka

Guest
Take Fire/Ice out. You should have 2 Shivan Wurm's in your deck. You should have 4 Rages in your deck also. I know the Rages are hard to get though. Maybe some Ghitu Fire also.
 
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