CPA Build-a-Deck III: Jace Beleren

Discussion in 'General CPA Stuff' started by Mooseman, Nov 17, 2008.

  1. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    I'm looking at this as a simple mill type deck. But maybe there are a few extra tricks that can be added..... It's also fairly low cc...

    Jace Beleren
    Planeswalker - Jace
    1UU
    +2: Each player draws a card.
    -1: Target player draws a card.
    -10: Target player puts the top twenty cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.


    3x Jace Beleren

    2x Traumatize
  2. Ransac CPA Trash Man

    Mill!!!

    Jace Beleren
    Planeswalker - Jace
    1UU
    +2: Each player draws a card.
    -1: Target player draws a card.
    -10: Target player puts the top twenty cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.


    3x Jace Beleren

    2x Traumatize
    2x Vision Charm

    Ransac, cpa trash man
  3. BigBlue Magic Jones

    Just in case....

    Tormod's Crypt - let's just make sure it isn't available or remotely useful.

    -- Aside... With all the recurring characters, why Tormod never makes another appearance is unfortunate... his crypt is cool... and so's it's flavor text.

    I'm not sure if he'll be as effective a millstone given you have to grant a lot of drawing to get to his 10 loyalty... On the other hand, since the draws are during your own turn you should find ways of making opponents discard... A certain Black Enchantment from Legends wouldn't suck either... We could turn this into a card drawing machine...

    EDIT: The cards I meant were Chains of Mephistopholes and Underworld Dreams (Too much Black investment imho), but we could also use Words of Waste to avoid the Chains affecting ourselves and help the situation... Activate Words, Activate Jace, Opponent discards to draw a card or get's milled for 1 (Chains of M), then has to discard a card - to Words of Waste... So either way they are discarding 1 or 2 cards and potentially getting milled - while we avoid negative effects. How do Chains work w/ Howling Mine?

    These would seem to work really well with the draw/discard blue creatures...

    Which is my future direction...

    Jace Beleren
    Planeswalker - Jace
    Loyalty: 3
    1UU
    +2: Each player draws a card.
    -1: Target player draws a card.
    -10: Target player puts the top twenty cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.


    3x Jace Beleren

    2x Traumatize
    2x Vision Charm
    2x Tormod's Crypt
  4. Oversoul The Tentacled One

    This guy seems kind of crappy. His first two abilities seem at odds with each other and his big ability requires too much of an investment. Oh well, at least we can protect that investment with countermagic...

    Jace Beleren
    Planeswalker - Jace
    Loyalty: 3
    1UU
    +2: Each player draws a card.
    -1: Target player draws a card.
    -10: Target player puts the top twenty cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.


    3x Jace Beleren

    2x Traumatize
    2x Vision Charm
    2x Tormod's Crypt[/QUOTE]
    2x Force of Will
  5. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    It gets replaced by the Chains ability.
  6. BigBlue Magic Jones

    I'm going to add the Chains now

    Let's get this party Started!

    I'm adding the analysis below... we don't have to keep up the Casting Costs and Colors I suppose, but I find they help for lands and to keep a good mana curve.

    Jace Beleren
    Planeswalker - Jace
    Loyalty: 3
    1UU
    +2: Each player draws a card.
    -1: Target player draws a card.
    -10: Target player puts the top twenty cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.


    3x Jace Beleren

    2x Traumatize
    2x Vision Charm
    2x Tormod's Crypt
    2x Force of Will
    2x Chains of Mephistopheles

    Card Count:

    Non-Creature Spells: 13
    Creatures: 0
    Lands: 0

    Total Cards: 13

    Mana Symbols:

    Blue: 12
    Black: 2

    CCC:

    0: 2 + 2 ACC
    1: 2
    2: 2
    3: 3
    4: 0
    5: 4
  7. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    I like this creature, evasion and possible mega mill
    Scalpelexis

    Jace Beleren
    Planeswalker - Jace
    Loyalty: 3
    1UU
    +2: Each player draws a card.
    -1: Target player draws a card.
    -10: Target player puts the top twenty cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.


    3x Jace Beleren

    3x Scalpelexis

    2x Traumatize
    2x Vision Charm
    2x Tormod's Crypt
    2x Force of Will
    2x Chains of Mephistopheles

    Card Count:

    Non-Creature Spells: 13
    Creatures: 3
    Lands: 0

    Total Cards: 16

    Mana Symbols:

    Blue: 13
    Black: 2

    CCC:

    0: 2 + 2 ACC
    1: 2
    2: 2
    3: 3
    4: 0
    5: 7
  8. rokapoke Man Among Gods

    Much milling for little mana. Gotta love... Glimpse the Unthinkable.



    Jace Beleren
    Planeswalker - Jace
    Loyalty: 3
    1UU
    +2: Each player draws a card.
    -1: Target player draws a card.
    -10: Target player puts the top twenty cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.


    3x Jace Beleren

    3x Scalpelexis

    2x Traumatize
    2x Vision Charm
    2x Tormod's Crypt
    2x Force of Will
    2x Chains of Mephistopheles
    2x Glimpse the Unthinkable

    Card Count:

    Non-Creature Spells: 15
    Creatures: 3
    Lands: 0

    Total Cards: 18

    Mana Symbols:

    Blue: 14
    Black: 3

    CCC:

    0: 2 + 2 ACC
    1: 2
    2: 4
    3: 3
    4: 0
    5: 7
  9. Oversoul The Tentacled One

    Might as well complete the playset on FoW. Not sure what else to do. I like milling decks, but I don't care for this centerpiece. It might work out well though. Who knows?

    Jace Beleren
    Planeswalker - Jace
    Loyalty: 3
    1UU
    +2: Each player draws a card.
    -1: Target player draws a card.
    -10: Target player puts the top twenty cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.


    3x Jace Beleren

    3x Scalpelexis

    2x Traumatize
    2x Vision Charm
    2x Tormod's Crypt
    4x Force of Will
    2x Chains of Mephistopheles
    2x Glimpse the Unthinkable

    Card Count:

    Non-Creature Spells: 17
    Creatures: 3
    Lands: 0

    Total Cards: 22

    Mana Symbols:

    Blue: 14
    Black: 3

    CCC:

    0: 2 + 4 ACC
    1: 2
    2: 4
    3: 3
    4: 0
    5: 9
  10. Shabbaman insert avatar here

    Milling, that's Grindstone plus Painter's servant or Leyline of the void plus Helm of Obedience.
  11. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    It's not the greatest card to build around, but that's the fun....

    Words, seems to give you an option to the card draw.... so in it goes
    It might need more creatures or we can go KJ-ish and have few to none....

    Jace Beleren
    Planeswalker - Jace
    Loyalty: 3
    1UU
    +2: Each player draws a card.
    -1: Target player draws a card.
    -10: Target player puts the top twenty cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.


    3x Jace Beleren

    3x Scalpelexis

    2x Traumatize
    2x Vision Charm
    2x Tormod's Crypt
    4x Force of Will
    2x Chains of Mephistopheles
    2x Glimpse the Unthinkable
    3x Words of Waste

    Card Count:

    Non-Creature Spells: 20
    Creatures: 3
    Lands: 0

    Total Cards: 22

    Mana Symbols:

    Blue: 14
    Black: 6

    CCC:

    0: 2 + 4 ACC
    1: 2
    2: 4
    3: 6
    4: 0
    5: 9
  12. Killer Joe Active Member

    Keep it creature light OF COURSE!!!!
    And speaking of those nasty creature thingys, you need Propaganda's in there to ease up on the heat.

    Jace Beleren
    Planeswalker - Jace
    Loyalty: 3
    1UU
    +2: Each player draws a card.
    -1: Target player draws a card.
    -10: Target player puts the top twenty cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.


    3x Jace Beleren

    3x Scalpelexis

    2x Traumatize
    2x Vision Charm
    2x Tormod's Crypt
    4x Force of Will
    2x Chains of Mephistopheles
    2x Glimpse the Unthinkable
    3x Words of Waste
    4x Propaganda

    Card Count:

    Non-Creature Spells: 24
    Creatures: 3
    Lands: 0

    Total Cards: 26

    Mana Symbols:

    Blue: 18
    Black: 6

    CCC:

    0: 2 + 4 ACC
    1: 2
    2: 4
    3: 10
    4: 0
    5: 9
  13. BigBlue Magic Jones

    I'm going to add some small creatures, which work well w/ Chains as I mentioned earlier. Plus it gives us a potential chump blocker or whatnot.

    Jace Beleren
    Planeswalker - Jace
    Loyalty: 3
    1UU
    +2: Each player draws a card.
    -1: Target player draws a card.
    -10: Target player puts the top twenty cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.


    3x Jace Beleren

    3x Scalpelexis
    2x Cephalid Looter

    2x Traumatize
    2x Vision Charm
    2x Tormod's Crypt
    4x Force of Will
    2x Chains of Mephistopheles
    2x Glimpse the Unthinkable
    3x Words of Waste
    4x Propaganda

    Card Count:

    Non-Creature Spells: 24
    Creatures: 5
    Lands: 0

    Total Cards: 29

    Mana Symbols:

    Blue: 21
    Black: 7

    CCC:

    0: 2 + 4 ACC
    1: 2
    2: 4
    3: 12
    4: 0
    5: 9
  14. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    Here are my thoughts..... don't laugh....
    Diabolic Edict to keep those creatures away
    Fact or Fiction to dig for the cards you need or would Brainstorm be a better alternative?

    Some way to get stuff back out of the GY?

    Howling Mine.... to work with the chains....
  15. BigBlue Magic Jones

    I think we should add capsize or some other bounce, works with planeswalkers or anything else especially when we get them to discard mode...

    I was also thinking of Ashnod's Cylix to search or mill... it's an "interesting" card I'd never really looked at.

    Ashnod's Cylix
    Artifact (2)
    Rules Text (Oracle): 3,T : Target player looks at the top three cards of his or her library, puts one of them back on top of his or her library, then removes the rest from the game.

    It isn't a draw, so it won't effect Chains if we use it on ourselves.
  16. BigBlue Magic Jones

    From my Singleton Deck

    And here you could actually counter w/ it.

    Jester's Scepter x2

    Jace Beleren
    Planeswalker - Jace
    Loyalty: 3
    1UU
    +2: Each player draws a card.
    -1: Target player draws a card.
    -10: Target player puts the top twenty cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.


    3x Jace Beleren

    3x Scalpelexis
    2x Cephalid Looter

    2x Traumatize
    2x Vision Charm
    2x Tormod's Crypt
    2x Jester's Scepter
    4x Force of Will
    2x Chains of Mephistopheles
    2x Glimpse the Unthinkable
    3x Words of Waste
    4x Propaganda

    Card Count:

    Non-Creature Spells: 26
    Creatures: 5
    Lands: 0

    Total Cards: 31

    Mana Symbols:

    Blue: 21
    Black: 7

    CCC:

    0: 2 + 4 ACC
    1: 2
    2: 4
    3: 14
    4: 0
    5: 9
  17. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    Have to get what you need.....

    Demonic Tutor

    Jace Beleren
    Planeswalker - Jace
    Loyalty: 3
    1UU
    +2: Each player draws a card.
    -1: Target player draws a card.
    -10: Target player puts the top twenty cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.


    3x Jace Beleren

    3x Scalpelexis
    2x Cephalid Looter

    2x Traumatize
    2x Vision Charm
    2x Tormod's Crypt
    2x Jester's Scepter
    4x Force of Will
    2x Chains of Mephistopheles
    2x Glimpse the Unthinkable
    3x Words of Waste
    4x Propaganda
    4x Demonic Tutor

    Card Count:

    Non-Creature Spells: 30
    Creatures: 5
    Lands: 0

    Total Cards: 35

    Mana Symbols:

    Blue: 21
    Black: 11

    CCC:

    0: 2 + 4 ACC
    1: 5
    2: 6
    3: 14
    4: 0
    5: 9
  18. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    Deny them what they wabt
    Diabolic Edict

    Jace Beleren
    Planeswalker - Jace
    Loyalty: 3
    1UU
    +2: Each player draws a card.
    -1: Target player draws a card.
    -10: Target player puts the top twenty cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.


    3x Jace Beleren

    3x Scalpelexis
    2x Cephalid Looter

    2x Traumatize
    2x Vision Charm
    2x Tormod's Crypt
    2x Jester's Scepter
    4x Force of Will
    2x Chains of Mephistopheles
    2x Glimpse the Unthinkable
    3x Words of Waste
    4x Propaganda
    4x Demonic Tutor
    2X Diabolic Edict

    Card Count:

    Non-Creature Spells: 32
    Creatures: 5
    Lands: 0

    Total Cards: 37

    Mana Symbols:

    Blue: 21
    Black: 13

    CCC:

    0: 2 + 4 ACC
    1: 5
    2: 8
    3: 14
    4: 0
    5: 9
  19. BigBlue Magic Jones

    I don't think tutor's allowed by the rules of no restricted/banned stuff...

    I think we still need a few creatures... I like Blizzard Specters here, either discard or bounce (poor bounce, but bounce if need be before a discard for removal).

    Jace Beleren
    Planeswalker - Jace
    Loyalty: 3
    1UU
    +2: Each player draws a card.
    -1: Target player draws a card.
    -10: Target player puts the top twenty cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.


    3x Jace Beleren

    3x Scalpelexis
    2x Cephalid Looter
    2x Blizzard Specter


    2x Traumatize
    2x Vision Charm
    2x Tormod's Crypt
    2x Jester's Scepter
    4x Force of Will
    2x Chains of Mephistopheles
    2x Glimpse the Unthinkable
    3x Words of Waste
    4x Propaganda
    4x Demonic Tutor - Banned?
    2X Diabolic Edict

    Card Count:

    Non-Creature Spells: 32
    Creatures: 7
    Lands: 0

    Total Cards: 39

    Mana Symbols:

    Blue: 23
    Black: 15

    CCC:

    0: 2 + 4 ACC
    1: 5
    2: 8
    3: 14
    4: 2
    5: 9
  20. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    I guess I missed the banned stuff part. Removed the tutors.

    Jace Beleren
    Planeswalker - Jace
    Loyalty: 3
    1UU
    +2: Each player draws a card.
    -1: Target player draws a card.
    -10: Target player puts the top twenty cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.


    3x Jace Beleren

    3x Scalpelexis
    2x Cephalid Looter
    2x Blizzard Specter


    2x Traumatize
    2x Vision Charm
    2x Tormod's Crypt
    2x Jester's Scepter
    4x Force of Will
    2x Chains of Mephistopheles
    2x Glimpse the Unthinkable
    3x Words of Waste
    4x Propaganda
    2X Diabolic Edict

    Card Count:

    Non-Creature Spells: 28
    Creatures: 7
    Lands: 0

    Total Cards: 35

    Mana Symbols:

    Blue: 23
    Black: 11

    CCC:

    0: 2 + 4 ACC
    1: 5
    2: 4
    3: 14
    4: 2
    5: 9

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