**Yah, that's my tech. Well, not exactly. But close enough to bear a startling resemblance...**
actually at another look they are still quite dissimilar I think...
**My deck features enough removal to deal with every single Rebel in your average Rebel deck, one at a time - maindeck.**
Hmmm. The "Flores Gold" I'm looking at from someone @ stevens tech has a Wumpus and 2 burn spells...
**Void is absolutely stunning against Rebels, taking out searchers, and keeping your opponent from holding back similar searchers in their hand. Likewise, Tsabo's Decree is my sideboard card of choice, simply eradicating all Rebels from play, and putting my opponent in topdeck mode.**
Well I think the problem is the Geddon making it tough to cast any of the high cc hosers.
**I perfer Void and Decree to the March in this deck, because of increased versitility. And, of course, you must take into account the mana cost...**
actually now that I think of it the CC is probably a pain with March and is a little better on the color requirements with the others. You've got a delecate balance with dead cards with a deck like this one. That's why in part I was running the Unmask...
Wait a minute! You aren't Sean M are you? Hmmm...I was confused...but I've seen your handle at the end of some writing right?
**Re: Counter/Wrath
I find there are usually no draws, but there are a lot of concessions by the Counter deck... Between the Zombies, Hammers, and Blazing Specters (of which I use two, try 'em out, they're quite strong), most control decks kinda curl up in a little ball. Counters do nothing to the deck, and Wrath is usually more of a stalling tactic than card advantage. Hammer weakens any offense the U/W deck can put up (Hammering a Jeweled Spirit each turn is absolutely hilarious!), and Pyre Zombie finishes them.
Counter Wrath also has serious post-Sideboard problems with this deck. Chill is annoying, but Flashfires and Boil are MORE annoying. Boil, especially, can cut a player out of a key color of mana with ease.**
"Who's the beatdown?"
My general thing is that there are all of these long control decks floating around seemingly in the top slots and that you wind up in a lot of long matches. I took CW in an online tourney and finished one game a match and went 1-1(losing to a rogue G/U with Bouncers). This deck is in the same sort of boat a lot. Against rush decks you are forced to play a lot of control which makes for longish games and against control decks the recursion takes a while to break. Against CW the main thing that you have to do is make sure and kill the creature clock which is a combo of Zombie and Rage or Necropolis/Nether plus Rage. I guess you can get them with Nether in 13 or so turns...
Nether Go is long again...
This is one of the reasons that I'm researching CR as I think it may have the power to have enough control and then creatures to break up this problem of so many long games. IF you read my CR post I try to theorize that that deck doesn't fit into what we've come to think about in terms of beatdown, aggro control, and control. It's more of that middling sort of control beatdown that McKeown just panned while also realizing that something different perhaps needs to break the perceived environment...
**Re: Geddon
Geddon is a real pain for my version of the deck. I can't usually win fast enough to survive a 'Geddon, and after one, I'm often neutered from attacking. Fatties aren't usually troublesome (Killer Apps are good regenerating blockers), but the 'Geddons completely destroy this mana hungry deck. I'm working on a sideboard to beat it.**
Well guy drops a Blasty on me, as I say and I Void for 4. He loses Blasty, Geddon, and a P Wave. Geddon is the single reason the deck needs peek discard and IMHO 6 is the number...Mine can burn up their mana most of the time which makes it less likely that they are going to Geddon. I actually think that this deck could perhaps want 6 Diamonds...
Seans deck might have a flaw. It's very creature light. VERY. I think he's planning on tutoring for them...but IF I'm playing U and I smell R/B I wouldn't let one tutor go through because they are going to either get a recurring creature, spell, or something like Necropolis.
Mine is getting there I think(although my SB is terrible). I think I can hang with Geddon and probably beat both CR and most of the Nether Go(although a Waters version or a SB'ed Waters might make things real bad. I'm beginning to think that that might be the eventual outcome of both Waters and Nether Go tinkering deck. Nether Go Waters).
Gimme that back! (Where'd you see that?)