Anybody play Five Color?

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galtwish

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Does anyone out there play 5C? I want to find out what other people think are good strategies. I'm thinking about a graveyard deck with the following being the engine:

1 Memory Jar
1 Windfall
1 Recurring Nightmare
1 Wheel of Fortune
4 Flux
4 Tolarian Winds
4 Winds of Change
4 Frantic Search
4 Hermit Druid
4 Avenging Druid
4 Scroll Rack
4 Fluctuator
4 Living Death
4 Victimize
and a bunch of heavy hitters and good 187s like
Dark Hatchling
Abyssal Horror
Crater Hellion
Avalanche Riders
Yaviamaya Granger
Wood Elf
Wall of Blossoms
Uktabi Orangutan
Monk Idealist
Radiant's Dragoons
Anarchist
Scrivener
plus a bunch of cycling dorks like
Sandbar Serpent
Disciple of Law
Disciple of Grace
Drifting Djinn
Pendrel Drake
Bloated Toad
Darkwatch Elves
and an alternate victory conditions of the black spell that allows you to remove X creatures from your graveyard to do X damage to a player and Cathodian+Blood Vassal+ Anarchist+Living Death.

remember, at least 18 cards in each color, and 250 cards minimum.

Thanks!

Erik
 
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krichaiushii

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Though it has been ages since I built a 5 color deck, some of my tricks included:

Try to only use cards that have 1 of a specific color in the cc, or easily played ACC.

Any card that lets you fetch basic land.
Any card that lets you fetch target forest affects dual lands as well, as certain duals count as a Forest and a
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Quiron Elves
Mana Severance
Foresight
Jeweled Amulet

Buyback. Especially the blue ones.

The assorted guildmages.

Dual Lands, Pain Lands, multicolor lands, but that goes without saying...

Good graveyard recursion, as you may pitch an awful lot before you get mana to cast it. Volrath's Stronghold is best for this, as you need no mana to cast it... only to use it.

4 Viashino Heretics -- most other people will be using artifact mana, so methods to destroy others is some good.

As you want to dig in your graveyard, use Whetstones, Worry Beads, Anvils of Bogarden, and lots of searchers to get them in play. As you want to kill with Living Death, run Night Soil or Carrion Beetles IOT prevent opponents from benefitting from the Living Death.
 
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Captain Caveman

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Erik,

Maybe you should include the site address so peolpe can
check the B&R list.

I'd put atleast one Avatar of Woe in the deck.

Just a thought,
Caveman
 
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I8Piggo

Guest
Is the restricted/banned list the same as Type I? Cause if it is, you can only use one Frantic Search.
 
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galtwish

Guest
http://www.mixweb.com/nneenn/5color/index.html
Here's the B/R list and other info. Here's the deck after playing solitare on Apprentice, because I decided to be realistic and only use cards I own (heh):

4 Yavimaya Granger
2 Wood Elf
2 Silverglade Elemental
2 Wall of Blossoms
4 Skyshroud Claim
4 Repopulate
1 Regrowth
1 Worldly Tutor
4 Impulse
4 Brainstorm
4 Arcane Denial
4 Frantic Search
4 Raven Familiar
4 Sandbar Serpent
4 Pendrel Drake
4 Drifting Djinn
4 Flux
4 Tolarian Winds
4 Attunement
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Stroke of Genius
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Corpse Dance
1 Demonic Consultation
1 Divinging Witch
2 Dark Hatchling
1 Phrexian Plaguelord
4 Living Death
4 Ashen Ghoul
1 Mind Twist
1 Yawgmoth's Bargain
1 Yawgmoth's Will
3 Haunting Misery
4 Blood Vassal
4 Expunge
4 Diabolical Edict
1 Krovikian Horror
4 Avalanche Rider
4 Scrap
1 Wheel of Fortune
4 Winds of Change
3 Lightning Bolt
4 Fireball
3 Anarchist
4 Disciple of Law
4 Fend Off
4 Clear
2 Treasure Hunter
3 Monk Realist
1 Academy Rector
1 Enlightened Tutor
4 Disenchant
4 Masticore
4 Thran Dynamo
4 Fluctuator
2 Jalum Tome
3 Cathodian
4 Blasted Landscape
1 Mountian Valley
2 Rocky Tarpit
3 Flood Plain
1 Grasslands
2 Bad River
4 Tropical Idland
1 Bayou
1 Taiga
14 Forest
16 Island
18 Swamp
12 Mountian
12 Plains

Thanks,
Erik
 
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Firestorm

Guest
My friends and I play a version of Magic sometimes, called "speed". You draw until you have 7 cards in your hand each turn and you may put as much land down as you want. Most of the Legends work beautifully here, especially Rubina Soulslinger and Lord of Tresserhorn. As soom as the Lord hit the table, game was over.
 
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galtwish

Guest
I was also going to try a beatdown 5c. I really need consistency and a cosntant supply of threats. Comments?

4 Lightning Bolt
4 Incinerate
4 Kaervek's Torch
4 Sonic Burst
1 Wheel of Fortune
4 Jackal Pup
4 Goblin Cadets
4 Kird Ape
4 Mogg Flunkies
4 Avalanche Riders
4 Rancor
4 Giant Growth
1 Regrowth
4 Bounty of the Hunt
4 Skyshroud Claim
4 Wild Dogs
4 Spectral Bears
4 Albino Troll
3 Ernham Djinn
4 Expunge
4 Duress
4 Diabolical Edict
4 Vendetta
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Demonic Consultation
4 Contract from Below
4 Dauthi Horror
4 Dauthi Marauder
4 Soltari Trooper
4 Disenchant
1 Enlightened Tutor
4 Monk Idealist
4 Armageddon
4 Arcane Denial
4 Mana Leak
4 Miscalculation
1 Windfall
1 Mystical Tutor
4 Impulse
4 Force of Will
4 Rootwater Thief
4 Serendib Efreet
2 Extravagant Spirit
4 Lim-Dul's Vault
4 Juggernaut
4 Cathodian
4 Cursed Scroll
1 Taiga
4 Tropical Island
1 Bayou
4 Adakar Wastes
4 City of Brass
4 Wasteland
3 Dust Bowl
4 Rishadan Port
2 Volrath's Stronghold
2 Rath's Edge
1 Shivan Gorge
18 Mountians
12 Forest
14 Swamps
10 Islands
10 Plains

Do the beatdown decks have enough speed to overcome by fire what they can't with weenies? Or should I make it nealy R/B and throw in lots of Land destruction, with mana developers in Green, utility in White and denial in Blue?

Thanks for reading the long post, and please don't suggest cards that are more than $15 for the deck.

Erik
 
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krichaiushii

Guest
What about Vitalizing Wind, Invigorate, and Hunted Wumpus? Any of these are better than Bounty of the Hunt, IMO. You may see an ugly creature or two when you play the Wumpus, but you have enough removal to take care of it. Speaking of removal, why not Plague Wind? I mention both these winds as you should have ample mana to cast them when necessary.

If you are a risk taker, you might consider Forsaken Wastes. Both Fallen Askari and Erg Raiders might also be considered, as they will always be attacking, any way.

Propaganda is perhaps blue's best multiplayer card. Given that you have Armageddons and other land denial in your deck, as well as a more offensive than defensive deck, you might consider it.

Green has the Skyshroud Elite -- 1/1 elves for G that gain +1/+2 if an opponent controls a nonbasic land. Considering the environment you are playing in, it might help. Why not River Boas and Rushwood Dryads? Both are 2/1 landwalkers that will definitely see their landwalk used, and the River Boa regenerates, to boot.

Political Trickery can turn your basic lands into your opponent's useful multicolor lands, helping you while potentially slowing your opponent.

Speaking of mana, why not Fellwar Stone? Produces one mana of any color an opponent can produce. I still like the idea of Quirion Elves, though.

Spire and Sage Owls are both 1/1 flyers that let you set the top 4 cards of your library. Very useful in a large deck.

I've tried to keep my recommendations to cards with a single colored mana in the casting cost. I think I succeeded, and hope my ideas help.
 
Killer Joe

Killer Joe

New member
Tradewind 5CG
2x Derelor
4x Tradewind Riders
3x Man-o-War
4x Birds of Paradise
4x Wall of Blossoms
4x Granger Guildmage
4x Uktabi Orangutan
4x River Boa
3x Quirion Ranger
4x Incinerate
4x Armageddon
2x City of Brass
1x Reflecting Pool
4x Gemstone Mine
4x Undiscovered Paradise
9x Forest

It sucks now as an extended deck, but it was cool to play back in the summer of '98.
 
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nodnarb24

Guest
Tag Guard

Here's my five colored deck:
Blue
4x thieving magpies
4x Man o' wars
4x Forbids
4x Quashes
4x Fylamarids
4x Control Magics
4x Cloud of faeries
4x Rewinds
4x Arcane Denials
4x Counterspells
4x Ghost Ships
4x Sibilant Spirits
Green
4x Rancors
4x Wyluli Wolfs
4x Spike Feeders
4x Skyshroud Elves
4x Erhnam Djinns
4x River Boas
4x Seeker of skybreaks
Black
4x Hymn to Tourachs
4x Dauthi Slayers
4x Dark Rituals
4x Hypnotic Specters
4x Diabolic Edicts
4x Animate Deads
4x Sengir Vampires
Red
4x Kird Apes
4x Shocks
4x Lightning Bolts
4x Avalanche Riders
4x Lightning Blasts
4x Incinerates
White
4x White Knights
4x Arrests
4x Soltari Monks
4x Pacifisms
4x Soltari Visionaries
4x Swords to Plowshares
4x Disenchants
Artifacts
2x Altar of Dementias
2x Urza's Blueprints
4x Juggernauts
4x Jeweled Amulets
3x Lotus Petals
4x Beast of burdens
2x Helm of Obediances
2x Crawlspaces
2x Zuran Orbs
Lands
19x Islands
12x Mountains
10x Swamps
10x Plains
8x Forests
4x Saprazzan Skerries
3x Hickory Woodlots
2x Peat Bogs
2x Remote Farms
2x Spawning Pools
2x Treetop Villages
2x Thran Quarries
2x Gemstone Mines
2x Shivan Gorges
2x Vec Townships
1x Forbidding Watchtower
1x Faerie Conclave
1x Heart of Yavimaya
1x Pendalhaven
1x Serra's Santum
1x Lotus Vale
1x Rainbow Vale
1x Karplusan Forest
1x Sulfurous Springs
1x Mogg Hollows
1x Taiga
1x Thalakos Lowlands
 
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Duel

Guest
My 5color deck is horrible, because I refuse to spend money on it. The basis is that there are in fact 6 types of 5 color decks

5cGreen: Uses Bops and other green mana sources to cast creatures of all shapes and sizes.

5cBlack: Living death! Living death, or any graveyard recursion! Usually includes green for survival of the fittest

5cRed: A rarer version, with either sneak attack, or pyromancy.

Donais: Don't ask me, I've never seen it played

5cSplit: The types of decks we're posting here. ones that use a variety of spells and a variety of methods. You will NEVER see these decks hit the big time, but dammit, they're fun.

Now, These are just the archetypes here, you can scarndalize and vandalize 'em all you want. I personally like 5cgreen/control, because it's cheap, and I LOVE living death decks, if you have the time and money.
 
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galtwish

Guest
Please remember that this thread is in reference to 5Color Magic, not 5c Decks. 250 minimum cards, 18 cards minimum in each color.

Erik
 
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